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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 01, 2008 11:07 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 01, 2008 6:58 pm) I would think that the 6 - 5 shift should be very soft. How much does the RPM increase? I'm thinking maybe 700. Even if its fairly often it wouldn't be as noticable as say the 4 - 3 shift in a Lucerne or Impala.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 02, 2008 3:51 am) Whatever it was, it did just fine. |
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...which I've never driven: Completely disregarding •gas mileage •reliability •and price, where does the loaded Lucerne with Northstar rate subjectively as a daily driving experience against the Avalon, Azera or Lexus ES? (Note: if you haven't driven a V8 Lucerne AND one of the others, disqualify yourself from replying.) |
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 02, 2008 11:27 am) The reason I ask is that the Lucerne is big and stylish, but it does labor under disadvantages in size, turning circle, reliability history and fuel economy. So, for those of us who aren't simply American-only loyalists, it has to win decisively in some area to rate serious consideration, even if its price is discounted down to parity. I'd think if there's any such area, it would be highway cruising comfort. Of course its V6 rivals aren't exactly slackers in that regard, either.
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am)
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am) The non CXS versions are nasty. In this case, it's all about the suspension. The Magnetic Ride suspension turns the car from just another Buick into a proper luxury sedan in how it rides. It's not as fast in a straight line, but honestly, do you see middle-aged and elderly people really needing to smoke the tires on any of these large barges? Go drive a CXS. It's not an old man's car any more. The Azera feels a notch down. A lot like the old Park Avenue, in fact. Good, but not the real deal(like a E class, DTS, or similar) The Avalon is nice, but lacking the suspension... yeah, it's just another bland Toyota. The ES is a nice notch above(there is no "Lexus" in Japan - all models are "Toyota" there), but the price is a bit silly. Doubly so if you are looking for used values. Buick and Cadillac are probably the top two makes to look at for a used full size luxury/semi-luxury sedan.
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 02, 2008 12:00 pm) Two years ago you'd be right but now you couldn't be anymore wrong... http://lexus.jp/ Lexus has been selling cars in Japan for more than 2 years now. There is also Lexus in Europe, Russia, Korea, China and Taiwan. As matter of fact Lexus is also the number 1 selling luxury brand in Taiwan.
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Replying to: louiswei (Jul 02, 2008 12:12 pm) Honestly, for a large car, the A8 is a very nice and often overlooked choice. the Volvo S80 also is as well.(though both have serious sticker shock, CPO is a whole other world more reasonably priced)
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