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Replying to: jontyrees (Jun 24, 2008 5:51 pm) Take it up to 4 or even 5,000 RPM and tell me that. Not something that you do often, however, it shows the level of refinement that the Toyota engine has. Also, its willingness to rev is outstanding. IMO the 2GR may be the best V6 out there right now. |
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Replying to: jontyrees (Jun 24, 2008 5:51 pm) And there is a lot of hype that is very justified.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jun 25, 2008 4:34 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 25, 2008 6:24 am) Enjoyable to drive is a subjective quality. I think that my Avalon is VERY enjoyable to drive. Smooth and quiet, power to put you back in your seat and just enough handling to have a little fun. Is it a track car? Hell no... will it understeer every time.. Yes. As for some other Yotas, have you driven a Camry SE? Just tightened up enough to enhance the handling but has a compliant ride. To each his own I guess.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 25, 2008 6:53 am) A series of marginal cars from Toyota I've driven have really turned me off of them; at least for now. Different strokes for different folks indeed, I know. 
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 25, 2008 6:24 am) MT said that the Camry SE actually has harder suspension than Accord. Go figure...
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Replying to: louiswei (Jun 25, 2008 7:26 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 25, 2008 7:05 am) Maybe that's because you aren't driving the right ones. Sounds to me like you are putting down your own judgment regarding "fun to drive" on Toyota based on the Camry (luxurious and soft model), Corolla and a SUV? Good god... Here are some of the models you should try and see if Toyota is indeed that "dull": Scion tC (you'd be surprised) Camry SE V6 FJ Cruiser (take it off road) IS250 with manual tranny (if you are into shift-yourself) IS350 IS F (this is a must) All the Toyota/Lexus hybrid models (a different kind of "fun to drive")
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Replying to: louiswei (Jun 25, 2008 7:38 am) Scion tC (you'd be surprised) Camry SE V6 FJ Cruiser (take it off road) IS250 with manual tranny (if you are into shift-yourself) IS350 IS F (this is a must) All the Toyota/Lexus hybrid models (a different kind of "fun to drive") Can't fit in the IS Lexus, so that's out. (I'm 6'5") Now you're down to the Camry SE-V6, which I would like to drive (but the person who owned the car I rode in I happen to work for, so I didn't ask ). FJ Cruiser? No need for off-road driving; I want on-road fun without too much of a mileage penalty, anyway. Scion tC? I'm glad you reminded me of that one; I looked at it when I was 17, and thought it had been over-hyped (at the time). I'm not the only one, several reviews have cited the lack of fun and the numb steering. Just a forgettable car. Sounds to me like you are putting down your own judgment regarding "fun to drive" on Toyota based on the Camry (luxurious and soft model), Corolla and a SUV? Good god... Why is that a problem? I certainly am, although I explicitly said I didn't expect the SUV to be fun to drive, I was just commenting that the quality seemed lacking with squeaks/rattles in a LEXUS. My driving-fun statement is based on my Corolla/Camry experiences. I've driven Camry and Corolla competitors that are lots of fun (Accord, Civic, any Mazda). Toyota could do it too, they just don't. They appeal to a different customer, so that's fine with me. But yes, I am whole-heartedly judging Toyota's fun-factor on its bread-and-butter cars just like I do with the other companies, because those are the ones I'll buy for myself. Now that I think about it, the Camry I drove was a V6, but I think it was the LE V6 (more in my price range anyway). It didn't have leather, that was the SE-V6 in which I only got to ride. Anyway, not one of these cars is on topic, so I'll try and guide us back. My folks are planning on purchasing their new car on Saturday. It is a brand new 2008 Taurus, Silver Birch over Stone Leather, the convenience package (Dual Auto Climate Controls, Auto Headlamps, 6CD Upgraded Sound System, Sirius Sat Radio), and Sync. Out-the-door will be $22k. They're pretty excited about the deal, as this was the first offer I received via internet from my local dealer. It's worth them coming home for, since their dealer on the coast wouldn't come below $24k OTD.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 25, 2008 7:59 am) No one is telling you to live with it but since you are talking about "fun to drive" how can you not try the brand's sportiest models (IS F and IS350) before slap a DULL sign on it face?  I am 6'1" with super long thighs (almost 1/3 of my total height) and my seat isn't all the way back yet. I am sure you'll be fine driving it (again, not live with it) with the seat all the way back. Oh by the way, if Jeremy Clarkson can fit in an IS then you can too...
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