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6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: On a side-note... [thegraduate] by captain2
Jun 24, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 24, 2008 10:42 am)

and that would be 25mpg in a car that'll give you whiplash (from all the downshifting) with the cruise set on 70 or so. Too bad too - it would really be a car worth considering - 'if it only had a heart'.
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Re: On a side-note... [captain2] by thegraduate
Jun 24, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 24, 2008 11:09 am)

Not saying this engine is great either, but the 3.9L can't come soon enough for the Lucerne.
 
If they had the capacity, I wonder if Buick wouldn't just put the corporate 3.6L in there, tune it to 275hp/251lb-ft like in the Enclave, and let 'er go.
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Re: On a side-note... [captain2] by tjc78
Jun 24, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 24, 2008 11:09 am)

and that would be 25mpg
 
But even if FE wasn't up to snuff think of the money you'll save financing on at 0% for 6 years! What more will the General do to sell cars?
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Re: On a side-note... [tjc78] by thegraduate
Jun 24, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 24, 2008 11:36 am)

Instead of an owner's manual, it'll be a book of printed money.
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Re: On a side-note... [tjc78] by captain2
Jun 24, 2008 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 24, 2008 11:36 am)

not to mention be forced to follow the Korean lead and to offer an ostensibly worthless 100k warranty as bait.... What's amazing is that Ford hasn't done this yet (maybe the beancounters won't let them?)
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Re: On a side-note... [captain2] by thegraduate
Jun 24, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 24, 2008 12:35 pm)

For awhile I remember a 5/100k warranty was offered on some if not all Ford vehicles. It is currently still competitive with most, with the normal 5/60k powertrain, 3/36k b-to-b.
 
Something that all don't offer but Ford happens to (I recently learned) is free roadside assitance for a period of time.
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Re: On a side-note... [captain2] by lightfootfl
Jun 24, 2008 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 24, 2008 12:35 pm)

If Ford offered the warranty you can bet they would find a loophole of some sort not to pay anything for any repairs. Like you didn't comb your hair correctly, or the like. Sorry, but me and Ford warranty can't see eye to eye on what they have agreed to pay for. It cost me big time. I wouldn't believe them until after I saw them pay.
 
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Re: Taurus Pricing [thegraduate] by jontyrees
Jun 24, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 23, 2008 10:42 am)

2008 Limited, black on black, $21,900 + TTL Awesome deal - you should be able to get an SEL for well less than that.
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Re: On a side-note... [thegraduate] by jontyrees
Jun 24, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 24, 2008 11:35 am)

I recently went on a weekend trip to Dallas from Austin (3.5-4 hrs each way) in an Enclave. Very nice vehicle. If the Lucerne had the same engine, I would have given it a closer look, but even then, it would have been overpriced - the 6cyl certainly is now.
 
On the topic of Avalon being cheaper to own - not the case according to Edmunds. They take resale into account, and depending how much better/worse you can do on purchase price, it's possible to make heavily rebated cars really cheap to own. Another factor in my world is that my car is financed, so even if two cars both depreciated $10k in two years, the car with the lower starting price would be cheaper for me to own. I would be paying interest on a lower amount the entire time. I like Avalons, but not enough to pay significantly more than the Taurus I now enjoy. And the engine isn't THAT different, BTW. There's a lot of hype around Toyota that isn't necessarily justified. I come from London, and while Toyotas are well regarded there, they don't enjoy the same divine reputation they have here.
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Re: Taurus Pricing [jontyrees] by thegraduate
Jun 24, 2008 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: jontyrees (Jun 24, 2008 5:32 pm)

Your price is before TTL, mine is after.

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