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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [louiswei] by snaglepus
Jun 04, 2008 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jun 03, 2008 7:51 am)

Please contact me privately.
 
Regards
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Re: Taurus observations? [brucelinc] by alexstore
Jun 05, 2008 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jun 04, 2008 9:51 am)

There is an article today on edmunds about people getting from 1.5 to 2 times EPA FE in their cars. IN the past I achieved 35 mpg mostly highway mpg in my 05 Maxima and thats 9 mpg higher than new EPA estimate. I am currently carpooling with a guy and my mpg is expected to fall by at least 1-2 mpg , but I am still managing to get 30-32 mpg.
I used both computer and gas station estimate and they are in my case are almost same. I reset computer a gas station few miles from highway. I can only imagine my FE if I did it once I reached my cruising speed. I also try to keep 59-64 constant speed AC or open windows have small effect on FE ( about 1-2 mpg loss)
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Re: Taurus observations? [brucelinc] by jontyrees
Jun 05, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jun 04, 2008 9:51 am)

I have the 18" rims with 225/55 tires on my Taurus - any idea if the overall diameter is different than the 17" rims? I don't know what tire size the 17" rims come with. That might account for the disparity in calculated rpm at 80mph and what I'm seeing on the tach. I'd guess I'm at around 2150rpm at 80mph, (which is "around 2k rpm" for me).
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Re: Taurus observations? [jontyrees] by snaglepus
Jun 05, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: jontyrees (Jun 05, 2008 9:10 am)

Pirelli does not list either the overall diameter for your tire or the revs per mile.
Is that your brand?
That brand is what TireRack lists as OEM for the 2008 Taurus FWD LTD model.
 
For other brands, you can use anywhere between 746 and 750 revs per mile for that size.
 
This tire would indeed be bigger in overall diameter than the 215-60-17s listed for the SEL models.
Those tires are 767 revs per mile.
 
Perhaps you are on to something. That is a considerable difference in tire diameter.
Do you know for sure what the overall gear ratio is for your car when it is in overdrive 6th gear?
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Re: Taurus observations? [snaglepus] by jontyrees
Jun 05, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: snaglepus (Jun 05, 2008 9:38 am)

Yup - Pirelli P6 4 Seasons 225/55R18 - quite a lot of rubber. I don't know the gear ratios.
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2009 Lucerne by drwilsc
Jun 05, 2008 (1:20 pm)
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Evidently Buick is dropping the 3.8 liter engine in favor of the 3.9 liter as the base V6 engine for the 2009 Lucerne. Any comments? Does this make the V6 Lucerne a more viable option, with the roughly 30 hp improvement over the 3.8?
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Re: 2009 Lucerne [drwilsc] by joe97
Jun 05, 2008 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: drwilsc (Jun 05, 2008 1:20 pm)

So the power rating would go from 197hp on the 3.8L V6 to 240hp ton the 3.9L V6.
 
The question to beg, why not the 3.6L V6?

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