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Replying to: louiswei (Jun 03, 2008 9:00 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 7:39 am) Also, travelling I-40 in eastern Tennessee with cruise on 65-70, got 32 MPG per computer. My understanding is that EPA highway estimate is for mixture of roads with stops included, not straight interstate. Regardless, I have a Ford Ranger piece of junk and had a Ford Taurus. Traded the Taurus for a Camry when the tranny fell out just over 100,000 miles. Used trany would cost more than a car in very good condition was valued. I'll keep my Azera over any Ford product out there now, but will look at MKS - not expecting much though. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 8:48 am) Personally, I've NEVER heard of a Ford vehicle bettering a Honda or Toyota vehicle in terms of FE...NEVER. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 9:10 am) No Captain, The FSE has dual inject, meaning it combines gasoline direct injection with traditional port injection. Using direct injection and port injection simultaneously facilitates more precise mixing of air and fuel under low and medium load conditions for greater efficiency, while high load conditions dictate the use of direct injection alone for maximum power. Source: Toyota GR Engine As far as I know currently the 2GR-FSE is the only engine to incorporate this technology, that really shows Toyota's dedication for both performance and FE.
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 7:21 am) And yes, most of my friends say I drive like "paw-paw," but they always line up to ride with me instead of going with someone else. I guess there's something to be said for safe driving. |
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Replying to: louiswei (Jun 03, 2008 9:00 am) I don't feel that bad about my 21 - 22 in my Avalon. FWIW I tend to have a lead foot too. The 2GR is just so sweet above 3500 RPM I just can't resist when I have an open lane! |
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Replying to: carolinabob (Jun 03, 2008 4:46 am) Yeah, it seems that the Southeastern Toyota conglomorate or whatever it is insists on ripping off the public by establishing those REQUIRED EXTRAS and they don't like being forced to admit it. As long as they insist on stealing that money from the public, I for one will never consider another Toyota, regardless of their offerings. Also I have found out local Pensacola dealer to not be the most gracious of service departments either. At one time our family had 4 Toyotas, now NONE. |
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I have never bought a car (Toyota Camry and Avalon) with "required extras" that I didn't want. Just tell the dealer to find the car you want, or be prepared to discount the extras if he wants to make a sale. It seems to work at my dealership!
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 7:39 am) One, I fill it the best I can, and then, make a second purchase by cash another 1.5 gallons and with the pump running slowing for the last 1/4 of a gallon or so, I am able to get it all in. Or, I just wait after it does the automatic stop, give it a few seconds and then slowly try and fill it. Some pumps will let you do this more easily than others. If someone has a better solution, I am all ears. BTW, based on using old method and computer, I find my computer to show about .1 mpg less than manual method, which is certainly good enough for me. Another kind of interesting thing about the Azera fuel computer is that when you are driving and your average mpg goes up (long downhill down a mountain, constant 55 mph , etc.) the miles to empty does not readjust up, the display simply stays where it is until your fuel reaches the point where the miles start to drop again based on the new average fuel economy. It is sometimes very interesting to drive 10 miles and see the miles to empty never change. My 07 Azera does not have an instant FE reading, only an average.
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