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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 03, 2008 7:09 am) since I know you are one of our younger posters here - I would suggest that you might also be the only '20 something' that can make this claim. 
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Replying to: jaymagic (Jun 03, 2008 7:10 am) which in itself can lead to inaccurate results These new high speed vapor recovery gas pumps will almost always shutoff well before your fuel tank is full - in the case of my Avalon 2 gallons or more - out of 18.5. So therefore if I start with a truly full tank and then 'fill up' with some quantity of fuel 2 gallons less, my calculated FE will necessarily be way high (approx. 10%) . The only way anymore to get an accurate FE calculation is to make sure that the tank is 'topped off' everytime - something that they (and the pumps) don't want us to do for obvious reasons. I really think that the trip computers in our cars may be more accurate  on a tank-by-tank basis.
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 7:21 am) Captain, were you trying to fish me out? Last time I took my IS350 on a trip I set the cruise at 85 mph and I got around 28 to 29 mpg. I have no doubt that if I slow down for just another 10 mph (75) I would have no problem brreaking the 30 mpg barrier. That's not too shabby for a 300+ hp car if you ask me... For your info, the new EPA estimate for my car is 19/26/21 and old estimate was 21/28/24. |
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Replying to: louiswei (Jun 03, 2008 7:51 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 8:48 am) The 2GR is phenomenal on highway both in terms of FE and performance. I don't know about the regular 2GR but the only time that my 2GR-FSE doesn't return good FE is in the city with my lead foot. I average about 19.5 mpg for my everyday driving and that's about 85% city and 15% highway.
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Replying to: louiswei (Jun 03, 2008 9:00 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 7:39 am) Also, travelling I-40 in eastern Tennessee with cruise on 65-70, got 32 MPG per computer. My understanding is that EPA highway estimate is for mixture of roads with stops included, not straight interstate. Regardless, I have a Ford Ranger piece of junk and had a Ford Taurus. Traded the Taurus for a Camry when the tranny fell out just over 100,000 miles. Used trany would cost more than a car in very good condition was valued. I'll keep my Azera over any Ford product out there now, but will look at MKS - not expecting much though. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 8:48 am) Personally, I've NEVER heard of a Ford vehicle bettering a Honda or Toyota vehicle in terms of FE...NEVER. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 03, 2008 9:10 am) No Captain, The FSE has dual inject, meaning it combines gasoline direct injection with traditional port injection. Using direct injection and port injection simultaneously facilitates more precise mixing of air and fuel under low and medium load conditions for greater efficiency, while high load conditions dictate the use of direct injection alone for maximum power. Source: Toyota GR Engine As far as I know currently the 2GR-FSE is the only engine to incorporate this technology, that really shows Toyota's dedication for both performance and FE.
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