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#6330 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [louiswei] by tonycd

May 22, 2008 (1:27 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (May 21, 2008 5:37 pm)
"Boring ripped-off Audi" is a bit needlessly hostile in my book.
 
Speaking as a fan of the Azera, I always have liked the Ford's exterior more than most people do. I was always a big fan of the Passat's lines, and the Ford is clearly just an enlarged version of them, which means it's automatically more tasteful right off the bat than 75% of the Big 2.8's output.
 
The styling problem I have with the Taurus is the inside. It's huge, but the dash and door panels just look to me like large, flat, cheap expanses, and the gauges in particular don't look big, clean or high-dollar in their presentation. I honestly wish I liked these aspects better, but I can't bring myself to do so. Sure hope they address this decisively in the 2010 restyle, as Chevy did with the Malibu and Hyundai with the '09 Sonata.

#6331 of 6854 Re: Azera vs Avalon [notsofast2] by carolinabob

May 23, 2008 (1:12 pm)

Replying to: notsofast2 (May 14, 2008 1:56 pm)
Congrats on getting a great car. I had an 03 Camry XLE V6 and still have a RAV4. Tried very hard to sell myself on the Avalon Limited. Way too expensive, way too many add on costs that dealers would not take off and so forth. I think Toyoto/Lexus will price themselves out of their market soon - at least in the Southeast. Plus it is ugly inside and out.
   More importantly, the Avalon did not offer near the features that the Azera did and I got the Azera Ltd. with Ultimate package for $27,000. BTW, got more on my Camry from Hyundai than Toyota offered against the Avalon and bought Camry from same dealer.
   Looked at Maxima, Acura TL and Infiniti G35 and others and they just did not measure up to the Azera FOR MY NEEDS/WANTS. Recently was offered a new 2008 Acura RL with technology package for under 40,000. Based on what I would give up on the Azera, I couldn't see it without even considering the cost difference.
    My only complaint with Azera is the bouncing/wallowing on roads with dips and crests. Maybe someday Hyundai will admit it is a problem and find a fix for it.

#6332 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [tonycd] by jontyrees

May 23, 2008 (8:35 pm)

Replying to: tonycd (May 22, 2008 1:27 pm)
Well - I went ahead and got the Taurus Ltd today and I couldn't be happier. Different strokes for different folks as they say, but I love the interior. Mine's black on black, and since Ford went with a lot of chrome and I got the chrome 18" wheels, the whole thing looks great (to me). I agree with the Passat comparison - very similar shape. The interior also has a more Germanic than Asian look/feel, which sits well with me. I'm British, so almost European. One observation I've made about this car is that it is very much like driving a x-over SUV with a huge trunk instead of a 3rd row seat. High seating position, tall, very roomy. Plus I confirmed that the stereo kicks butt - can't wait to get the Sirius activated and the Sync figured out.
 
Good luck all - this is a great tine for new cars!

#6333 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [jontyrees] by tjc78

May 24, 2008 (6:59 am)

Replying to: jontyrees (May 23, 2008 8:35 pm)
Check back in from time to time. There aren't many Taurus/Sable owners on this board. Would love to know, real world economy and such. With the deals on the Taurus and Azera you really couldn't go wrong with either one. Resale value won't be too great, but if you are planning on keeping it a while that shouldn't be a big deal. Black on black does look nice on that car, however... if you are a nut like me keeping it clean with be a chore!
 
Enjoy the car.
 
P.S. the "high seating position" was originally a big selling point when Ford introduced the 500 in '05. I believe they called it "command seating" or something to that effect.

#6334 of 6854 Accord, Azera, Impala by joezera

May 24, 2008 (9:48 am)

My wife and I chose an '07 Azera after having driven the Impala and the Honda Accord. We also looked at Toyota Camry. The Azera gave us the best safety, ride, warranty and value for our money. We now have a little over 4K miles on the car. We still love the car and have no problems to report. The Impala and the Accord had a more harsh ride than what we wanted. All were great cars, we just liked the Azera better.

#6335 of 6854 Re: Azera vs Avalon [carolinabob] by captain2

May 27, 2008 (1:00 pm)

Replying to: carolinabob (May 23, 2008 1:12 pm)
My only complaint with Azera is the bouncing/wallowing on roads with dips and crests
AKA Buick -itis and something that not even the Lucerne suffers that much from anymore.
Agree with you, think that Hyundai has overdone the soft ride thing, but don't believe you'll find them admitting it is a problem, it is, after all, what many folks of cars like this want, and rarely do you get a soft ride without an (overly) compliant suspension. They made the correct guess on the American driver preferences much like Toyota has been adept at doing for years and years now. We Americans have generally shown to prefer the highway cruiser to the 'road car'. The Avalon, long known as 'the best Buick GM never built' in the two top trims suffers from much the same condition, although it is (ultimately) more controlled IMO.

#6336 of 6854 Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [autokritiker] by bassmax

May 28, 2008 (12:00 pm)

Replying to: autokritiker (Apr 17, 2008 12:23 pm)
I would not even consider a Tauras or Azera at the price of $21,000 and $22,000 when I just bought a Maxima SE for $23,000 and it has lots of standard options including one of the best engines ever built 10 years running....just my opinion.

#6337 of 6854 Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [bassmax] by thegraduate

May 28, 2008 (12:03 pm)

Replying to: bassmax (May 28, 2008 12:00 pm)
I would not even consider a Tauras or Azera at the price of $21,000 and $22,000 when I just bought a Maxima SE for $23,000 and it has lots of standard options including one of the best engines ever built 10 years running....just my opinion.
 
That's good, considering a Taurus has been advertised for under $20k in many areas for many months.

#6338 of 6854 Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [bassmax] by tjc78

May 28, 2008 (1:31 pm)

Replying to: bassmax (May 28, 2008 12:00 pm)
would not even consider a Tauras or Azera at the price of $21,000 and $22,000
 
You got such a great deal on your Max because the completely new model is due out in a few months. The Taurus and Azera are a different type of car much softer and roomier inside. Two different customers IMO.

#6339 of 6854 Re: Azera vs Avalon [captain2] by tjc78

May 28, 2008 (1:33 pm)

Replying to: captain2 (May 27, 2008 1:00 pm)
AKA Buick -itis and something that not even the Lucerne suffers that much from anymore
  
The base and some of the CXL's w/o magnaride (or whatever they call it) still have plenty of "float" to them. You are right, the CXS is much tighter, similar to an Av Touring.

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