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#6320 of 6844 Re: Camry [louiswei] by pat HOST May 16, 2008 (10:42 am)
Replying to: louiswei (May 16, 2008 7:27 am)
#6321 of 6844 Hyundai Genesis by thegraduate May 21, 2008 (10:18 am)
Originally, I thought this car was supposed to offer a 3.3L, a 3.8L, and the 4.6L. Road and Track is reporting it will be only the 3.8L (290hp) and the 4.6L (375hp).   Just thought I'd share. Replies to this message: allmet33 (May 21, 2008 10:28 am) louiswei (May 21, 2008 11:25 am)
#6322 of 6844 Re: Hyundai Genesis [thegraduate] by allmet33 May 21, 2008 (10:28 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (May 21, 2008 10:18 am) The 3.3 may still be in the mix, just not for the North American market. I reported a couple weeks ago, after picking up the Genesis brochure from my local dealer, that it only mentioned the 3.8 and the 4.6. Which...makes sense, I didn't think there really needed to be 3 different power plants offered for one market.   On a side bar...when the Azera was brought out...it was orginally just offered as a 3.8 here in the U.S., but the 3.3 was offered over in Australia and up in Canada (I think), but basically...the overseas market. It made it's way into the U.S. market as a late '07 as the GLS model.
#6323 of 6844 Re: Hyundai Genesis [thegraduate] by louiswei May 21, 2008 (11:25 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (May 21, 2008 10:18 am) If that's the case then I am skeptical about the starting MSRP would remain below $30k.
#6324 of 6844 Taurus vs Azera observations by jontyrees May 21, 2008 (2:20 pm)
I'm in the market for a large, reasonably powerful, and reasonably luxurious sedan. Given budget constraints, I'm looking to spend <$30k - preferably by as much as possible. Over the last few days I've test driven the '08 Taurus and Azera, both Limited versions. While I liked them both, I have to say that my reaction to the Azera was "that was nice", while the Taurus was more "wow - that was great!" Obviously it's a personal opinion, but I can't understand how the Edmunds Editors rated the interior and design of the Azera well above that of the Taurus. To me, the Taurus interior was just much better - the comfort, the materials, (particularly the leather seats), even the stereo sounded better than the 605w Infinity in the Azera. Both very attractive, but in my opinion, the Taurus is just much more vehicle - almost in a different segment. YMMV Replies to this message: louiswei (May 21, 2008 4:37 pm) ronsmith38 (May 21, 2008 5:28 pm) rgb42 (May 21, 2008 7:05 pm) louiswei (May 21, 2008 7:21 pm) and 1 more... tonycd (May 22, 2008 12:27 pm) jontyrees (May 23, 2008 7:35 pm) and 70 more...
#6325 of 6844 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [jontyrees] by louiswei May 21, 2008 (4:37 pm)
Replying to: jontyrees (May 21, 2008 2:20 pm) Both very attractive, but in my opinion, the Taurus is just much more vehicle - almost in a different segment.   I think the majority would disagree with you.   I am sure both are fine cars but between the two Azzy is the winner in my book. Details aside, at least it doesn't look boring or like a ripped off Audi... Replies to this message: ronsmith38 (May 21, 2008 5:28 pm) rgb42 (May 21, 2008 7:05 pm) louiswei (May 21, 2008 7:21 pm) jontyrees (May 22, 2008 6:23 am) tonycd (May 22, 2008 12:27 pm) jontyrees (May 23, 2008 7:35 pm) tjc78 (May 24, 2008 5:59 am) and 69 more...
#6326 of 6844 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [louiswei] by ronsmith38 May 21, 2008 (5:28 pm)
Replying to: louiswei (May 21, 2008 4:37 pm) 2008 Azera sales vs 2008 Taurus and Sable sales might show the majority agree with jontyrees. As a 2008 Sable owner I know I do. Replies to this message: rgb42 (May 21, 2008 7:05 pm) louiswei (May 21, 2008 7:21 pm) jontyrees (May 22, 2008 6:23 am)
#6327 of 6844 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [ronsmith38] by rgb42 May 21, 2008 (7:05 pm)
Replying to: ronsmith38 (May 21, 2008 5:28 pm) I had been driving an '04 Maxima SE, loaded, which I purchased new. I test drove several different cars, the '08 Taurus Limited and the '08 Azera Limited among them. For me, I much preferred the Azera Limited in all aspects over the Taurus Limited ... drive, styling, interior, etc. ... went with the Azera Limited. I guess that's why there are so many makes and models out there ... we are all different and prefer different things.
#6328 of 6844 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [ronsmith38] by louiswei May 21, 2008 (7:21 pm)
Replying to: ronsmith38 (May 21, 2008 5:28 pm) Of course the Taurus is out selling the Azera, Ford is essentially giving them away now... Replies to this message: jontyrees (May 22, 2008 6:23 am)
#6329 of 6844 Re: Taurus vs Azera observations [louiswei] by jontyrees May 22, 2008 (6:23 am)
Replying to: louiswei (May 21, 2008 7:21 pm) Pricing definitely isn't an obstacle for the Taurus - $4k in Ford rebates available. However, Azera isn't far behind - $2.5K rebate. The daelers are pitching in beyond that also. Seems like it's a good time to be in the market - lots of deals available. Of course I may get left holding the bag as gas prices continue upward and resale values plummet. I generally put ~100k miles on a car, so I'm not looking to trade-in soon, but gas price is a concern. I was talking to a local dealership owner who says he literally can't get enough hybrids to sell (Honda and Toyota).   WRT the Azera interior - my only real problems with it were the silver metallic-looking plastic center console, which seemed really flimsy, and the large swath of grained plastic across the dash. The dash plastic looked and felt pretty durable, but it was just a little plain. But hey - I'm not looking to spend Lexus money, and either one I'm shopping is a great value.

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