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6844 messages, Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM
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This is NOT a discussion of Hyundai as a manufacturer, as you all know! I've previously given you plenty of links where you can take this conversation. You really need to do that if you want to continue this vein. Off topic posts are going to begin disappearing without notice.
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Replying to: pat (May 14, 2008 7:46 am) Since I am only speaking of the Azera in my post, please explain how that is off topic. Are we not supposed to mention the manufacturer, just the model from now on?????
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Replying to: jaymagic (May 14, 2008 7:13 am) Don't bet on it - it already has and is. Just not quite ready to hand them my checkbook, though - no 'proven' track record (IMO) - at least quite yet. |
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Replying to: jaymagic (May 14, 2008 7:54 am) I think if you review the last couple of pages of posts here, you'll understand my concern that the topic had shifted dramatically from the mainstream large sedans we've been discussing. If you still have questions, please email me. We need to get back on track. Thanks. |
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Thanks for all the help these sites have been. I purchased an Azera in January after much looking. Was getting rid of a 92 Camry XLE V6 and have an 02 Avalon. I am finding the car to be a wonderful vehicle. I passed on the Toyota products after their continued problems with transmition on V6 models and never have found Buick to be my product. Came down to the new Accord or the Hyundai, and the price plus features made the choice for me, plus the fact that I want my car to stand out and not be one of millions (as I expect the new Accord to be). No problems yet, but it is great to have this series of sites to help me look for issues and have some ideas how to deal with them. Again, thanks to all. |
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Replying to: notsofast2 (May 14, 2008 12:56 pm) Apparently you haven't done enough research... The "problem" for the Toyota V6 tranny only happened to something like the first batch of the new Camry. On top of that, the "problem" was an easy fix, just a programming issue.
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Replying to: louiswei (May 14, 2008 3:24 pm) The tranny "problem" was and yes STILL in the 2001 to 2006 Toyota/Lexus V6 auto transaxle line. I know because I have one. The "easy fix programming" never did fix the problem, no matter what Toyota says. I can duplicate the sever hesitation problem at will.
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Replying to: raw6464 (May 14, 2008 4:47 pm) Can someone confirm or correct me here please?
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 14, 2008 6:04 pm) The first 100 or so '07 Camrys with the six speed actually had mechanical failures . The "flaring" issue was largely with the 5 speed / 4cyl Camrys that has been resolved with reflashing the computer. The "hesitation problem" is a function of the transmission logic. These vehicles (Camry, Av, Sienna, HL, ES, RX, Solara etc) actually upshift when slowing down at around 10 - 15 MPH, if right after this upshift you call for a downshift at low engine RPM there can be a 1 or 2 second delay while the ATF pump catches up to make the shift happen. I have read about several places including here at Edmunds (wwest is very knowledgeable with this topic). That is why you can actually make it occur. My car will do it if I try hard enough to make it so. It has happened maybe once or twice on its own in the 23K that I have driven my '06 Avalon. Having said all that.. I have driven just about everything in Yotas line in one form or another and never have found it to be a problem. The one thing I will say is that if you "tenderfoot" these cars the tranny will hold onto high gear a touch longer when you get on it. I used to notice this whenever I drove my Mother's '05 HL. After a few miles with my heavier foot it began to shift more like my car.
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Replying to: tjc78 (May 14, 2008 6:32 pm) You are correct. It's the hesitation problem that was/is the predominant issue with the 01-06 5spd transaxles... and still is. It may not be a problem to you or other who do not do a lot of stop and go heavy traffic or are aware of it and work around it. When in that situation I shift manually to avoid the hesitation. BUT, there are times when I have to get off and on the throttle at that up shift time and experience the hesitation. The hesitation in these cars are not or your normal run of the mill kind. When it happens and your on the gas, the tranny drops into a gear with a violent bang that shakes the whole car. You think the tranny is going to fall out of the car. It's easy to duplicate, accelerate up to about 15-20MPH, get off the gas and then back on... it will happen frequently It is well documented here at Edmonds.
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