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Re: A week in a Max [tjc78]
by captain2
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Apr 29, 2008 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Apr 29, 2008 6:30 am)
I, for one, would hate to see a personality change on the 09 Maxima, it is not a car that can likely compete with something like an Avalon - not that it is especially good or bad - just different.
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Re: A week in a Max [captain2]
by tjc78
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Apr 29, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Apr 29, 2008 8:08 am)
I don't think you will. Nissan will always tend to be a little on the sportier side of things while Toyota and Honda build the more conservative vehicles. The Maxima does compete with the Avalon, but instead of saying which one might be better I think the ultimate decision will come down to driver preference.
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Re: A week in a Max [tjc78]
by alexstore
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Apr 30, 2008 (3:56 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Apr 29, 2008 12:03 pm)
I totally agree with you. As I wrote before, I had both Maxima and Avalon on my shopping list. Even though I still believe overall that Avalon is the best/ one of the best (if we include G8) car on this forum, Maxima met my needs in all aspects. Azera was not available at that time, but after driving / riding in one, even if it was available it did not offer me ( except for safety ), what I wanted in my car. Plus I never buy any car in its first year. Let some guys who like to pay more, spend time at the dealers fixing bugs.
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Re: 2010 Ford Taurus -- Half the Picture [cdmuile]
by carolinabob
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Apr 30, 2008 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: cdmuile (Apr 14, 2008 5:38 pm)
Thank goodness Hyundai did not buy Jaguar. Jag is pretty and runs fast, but has very low reliability and very high repair costs. It would not help Hyundai become a really big player to saddle itself with an expensive, low volume, unreliable car.
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Re: 2010 Ford Taurus -- Half the Picture [carolinabob]
by captain2
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May 01, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Apr 30, 2008 12:14 pm)
while it is difficult to defend any British car in terms or reliability, I believe that you can point to the degree of sophistication in Jaguars (just like BMWs and MBs) as the real culprit for that checkered reliability. If there is one thing that Ford did help Jaguar do it probably is improving that reliability. Hyundai (as well as any of the other Korean mfgrs.) does not have a presence in the luxury end of things. Now they are seemingly wanting to get in that market - what better way then to call that car a Jaguar mark it up another $10 grand, and further try to insulate it from consumer reliability concerns with that infamous warranty of theirs? Win-win?
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If Hyundai had bought Jaguar, [carolinabob]
by tonycd
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May 02, 2008 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Apr 30, 2008 12:14 pm)
my thought was that they'd mostly buy the brand and its image more than the cars. For instance, the Genesis in some guise would become a Jaguar, much as the unseen parts of the VW Phaeton are now the guts of a "Bentley." It's the upmarket image of the name Hyundai needs -- not, as you aptly point out, the engineering.
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Not sure how to look at it...
by allmet33
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May 12, 2008 (8:02 am)
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is the glass half full or half empty? The newest Ford commercials that have thrown the guantlet down and said that Ford products are equal to Toyota products in quality. Of course, that's a boost for Ford, but one heck of a knock against Toyota.
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Re: Not sure how to look at it... [allmet33]
by tjc78
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May 12, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (May 12, 2008 8:02 am)
On one of the commercials they said Honda too....No doubt Ford's quality is much better lately. I really am surprised that I am not seeing more of the new Taurus/Sable on the road. For the $$ its hard to beat.
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Re: Not sure how to look at it... [tjc78]
by allmet33
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May 12, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (May 12, 2008 8:18 am)
I would agree that FoMoCo's quality is better, but equal to Toyota & Honda...that would seem a stretch. Unless they are saying that Toyota/Honda's quality is slipping a bit. I'm not sure what part of the country you're in, but here in the DC Metro area...you see plenty of Taurus cars on the road.
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Re: Not sure how to look at it... [allmet33]
by tjc78
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May 12, 2008 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (May 12, 2008 8:21 am)
I live in Southern NJ right outside Philly. I really don't see that many. More so than a few months ago, but I guess I expected more. Think early/mid 90s, they were everywhere. Heck I even had one... (or should I say I shared ownership the service department at Echelon Ford  )
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