- #6218 of 6844
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Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [captain2]
by thegraduate
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Apr 17, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Apr 17, 2008 6:23 am)
Yeah, the 3.8 (RIP) and 4.0 from the Mustang sound like they have 200k miles on them straight from the factory.
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- #6219 of 6844
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Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [thegraduate]
by captain2
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Apr 17, 2008 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 17, 2008 6:24 am)
in a car like the Mustang even the V6 version should be 'peppy' which it isn't and I guess because the engine would be less 'insulated' then say the 3.8 is in the Lucerne it is that much more bothersome. Pushrod engines may have a place in those big ole 'lazy' V8s but as far as smaller 4 and 6 cylinder engine are concerned - I agree, RIP
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- #6220 of 6844
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Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [captain2]
by tjc78
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Apr 17, 2008 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Apr 17, 2008 6:50 am)
It could be worse, remember Ford's 3.8 from the Thunderbird/Winstar/early 90s Taurus?
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- #6221 of 6844
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Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [tjc78]
by captain2
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Apr 17, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Apr 17, 2008 7:04 am)
yeah, think they all must have been derivatives of the 3.0 Vulcan - soon to become the "Hertz' standard. 
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Re: Horrors, I agree with captain. [captain2]
by tonycd
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Apr 17, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Apr 16, 2008 10:20 am)
I saw and sat in the "Lincoln" at the auto show. It's painfully obvious it's nothing but a tarted-up Taurus. They didn't even fix the parts of the interior that suck, like the hard flat door surfaces and the gap-toothed duo of gauges.
Betcha they sell at least six of 'em. Hope they left a vacant space in the Ford museum next to the Blackwood.
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- #6223 of 6844
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Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [tjc78]
by thegraduate
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Apr 17, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Apr 17, 2008 7:04 am)
If I'm not mistaken, the 3.8 from the last Windstar is the same engine from the Mustang.
Back to the fullsizers?
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Re: Good reliability isn't Jaguar's problem. [captain2]
by autokritiker
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Apr 17, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Apr 17, 2008 5:49 am)
I think it's pretty impressive that in the 2008 Taurus, the new 3.5L Duratec hooked up to the same 6-speed automatic gets 2 MPG better on the Highway, and 1 MPG better combined compared to the 2007 Five Hundred with the old 3.0L Duratec. I'd say Ford definitely refined the Duratec V6: 60 more HP *and* better fuel economy. This new engine pulls the Taurus to 60 MPH in 6.8 seconds, which is faster than most people even need.
I think the Taurus is the best value in the class. Clean looks, roomy and comfortable, 28 MPG Highway (where most people do the majority of their driving), and you can get one nicely equipped for around $21,000. The only comparable car that comes close is the Azera GLS, which you can get for around $22,000. All others cost thousands more. Anyone who's in the market definitely needs to check out all the brands. Back in 1998 or 2000, I'd say stick with the Japanese brands. Today, in 2008, Hyundai and the 2 of the Big 3 have stepped it up to the point where they are definitely worth a look.
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Re: Horrors, I agree with captain. [tonycd]
by captain2
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Apr 17, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: tonycd (Apr 17, 2008 9:55 am)
call Ripley's - a rare occurrence, for sure - I know somebody real well that would tell you I'm never right - think you can guess who that is...
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Re: Horrors, I agree with captain. [captain2]
by allmet33
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Apr 17, 2008 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Apr 17, 2008 12:47 pm)
I know somebody real well that would tell you I'm never right
Never right about what, Captain?
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- #6227 of 6844
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Re: Horrors, I agree with captain. [allmet33]
by captain2
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Apr 17, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Apr 17, 2008 12:52 pm)
pretty much anything, of course - you must not be married? 
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