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What is this discussion about?
Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#5979 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [alexstore]
Mar 24, 2008 (5:28 am)
neither G8 or Genesys are included here for discussion by our hosts.
Alexstore - think there are some limits on the no. of cars that can be shown to be part of the group.
The G8 was specifically included, and later removed - I guess becuase it wasn't available yet. That is no longer the case - there would seem to be no reason that the G8 shouldn't be fair game (and part of this discussion) if the Charger/300 are - unless, of course, we want to limit this only to FWD Large Sedans
The Genesis, quite a different story - still not available and from the sound of it, still several months away.
Read in the latest MT BTW that the Lucerne will become a different car by 2010 - to share the G8 RWD platform - guess it must be low volume enough that GM figures that Hoden can keep up with the added production. Figuring that the Buick version should be a 'softened' Pontiac, may offer a good choice in this case, if GM doesn't go hog wild with the 'Buickifying'.
#5980 of 6854 Re: Buick version of G8 [captain2]
Mar 24, 2008 (10:14 am)
"The Buick version should be a 'softened' Pontiac, may offer a good choice in this case, if GM doesn't go hog wild with the 'Buickifying'."
Only if GM is determined to appeal to the dead.
Of course, they are an ever-expanding demographic.
#5981 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [captain2]
Mar 24, 2008 (11:08 am)
You are right about the limits on the number of car categories than can be listed, and you are right that I said earlier if you want to talk about the G8, have at it, whether it is listed or not. I added it back just now.
I did say that I want to avoid including the Genesis in this discussion until we find out if it actually fits the criteria. We won't know that until we know the pricing.
So Alex, the bottom line is the G8 is in, other mainstream large sedans that aren't listed are in as long as they do fit the category, and the Genesis is out - for now.
#5982 of 6854 Blog Post About My Decision To Buy An Azera
Mar 24, 2008 (6:28 pm)
I've decided to buy a new 2007 Azera Limited. To help kill the time until I make the purchase, I posted a blog with my thoughts about my decision. The post also includes several video reviews, a couple of Azera commercials and an IIHS crash test video. Feel free to check it out at http://blog.wintermeyer.us/2008/03/hyundai-buddy-hyundai.html
#5983 of 6854 Re: Blog Post About My Decision To Buy An Azera [cwintermeyer]
Mar 24, 2008 (8:37 pm)
Chris (Got your name from your blog )
I'm an owner of a 2007 Azzy & before I bought it, I did months & months of research. I always thought I should document all the reviews & Youtube videos somewhere but never got around to it.
A good collection & needless to say, would be invaluable to anyone who's looking to find more info about Azzy.
Good luck negotiation & do let us know how it went.
I had a question though; WHy not go for a 2008? Even though there's no perceptible difference between 2007 & 2008 as you claim on your blog, they say suspension is improved & handling improved in 2008. Hope you're getting a GREAT deal on 2007
#5984 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [pat]
Mar 25, 2008 (3:42 am)
currently g8 V8 according to some magazines is the best performing vehicle on this forum. if FE and resale were higher , this car could have been on my shopping list
#5985 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [alexstore]
Mar 25, 2008 (4:28 am)
How can you predict resale yet? Actually, I would figure this vehicle to be OK in that dept as there aren't going to be that many to go around and being such a performer at an attractive price. I wouldn't be surprised to see some dealers marking up the first few they get. What kills resale on so many domestics is the large incentives to get them out the door. For example a 2008 Grand Marquis has a $5500 rebate. No wonder they practically give them away used.
#5986 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [tjc78]
Mar 25, 2008 (5:49 am)
how much of the G8s resale is going to be determined by $4 gas prices? SUVs remain a very popular vehicle type these days but other than the small CRV types the mfgrs can't give them away and you sure don't want to be trading one in right now. Would bet you see the same on the G8, while it might blow the doors off anything in this group in the straights and in the twisties, after an initial 'honeymoon' FE issues will largely determine how much in demand these cars remain new and used. This is the same thing that happened with the 300C, you suppose that Chrysler having a bit more trouble selling them now than they did a few years back?
#5987 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [captain2]
Mar 25, 2008 (6:51 am)
This is the same thing that happened with the 300C, you suppose that Chrysler having a bit more trouble selling them now than they did a few years back?
Considering things like lifetime powertrain warranties, 0% financing and rebates....I think you know the answer to that
As for the (V8) G8, I don't think it will never be a mainstream vehicle, so resale may not be as horrid as most V8 domestics. Only time will tell. If GM is planning on using this platform elsewhere in the line (i.e. Lucerne / Impala) that could change. What I wouldn't mind seeing is the direct injection 3.6 (CTS) as the base engine for the rumoured RWD Lucerne.
#5988 of 6854 Re: Why speed limiters? [alexstore]
Mar 25, 2008 (8:34 am)
Don't know how much this matters to the Drive Safely finger-wagging lecture series going on here, but I believe the reason carmakers went to speed limiters was to avoid liability concerns because of the car being able to outrun the speed rating of the tires.