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6713 messages,  Last post on Aug 25, 2008 at 11:38 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Pontiac G8 [allmet33] by joe97
Mar 21, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 21, 2008 7:19 am)

I can't speak for what the dealers were told but originally, the Genesis sedan was slated for US release in the second half of 08 so it's actually ahead of schedule, based on what I was told at least, in June.
 
Yes, there are some movie sneak previews half a year in advance, or more. I recall seeing at least one just about a week ago
 
Regardless, this is nothing new in the automotive industry. Toyota Tundra released a year after it debuted, Ford Flex even longer, Pontiac G8...Automaker do this for a number of reasons.
 
They show the Superbowl ads, which would lead everyone that saw it to believe it was going to be arriving soon.
 
In short, the ads were intended for combination of image elevation and sneak preview. Hyundai specifically ended those ads and stated "Summer 2008".
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2009 Maxima by alexstore
Mar 23, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Guys neither G8 or Genesys are included here for discussion by our hosts. so lets return to vehicles that are here. Like I said before and Nissan proved me right Altima is a test bed for Maxima. 2009 Maxima rides on a new D platform introduced for Altima. My guess for refreshing in 2010 Altima will get 290 hp engine, while Maxima introduces Diesels.
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Re: 2009 Maxima [alexstore] by captain2
Mar 24, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Mar 23, 2008 7:45 am)

neither G8 or Genesys are included here for discussion by our hosts.
Alexstore - think there are some limits on the no. of cars that can be shown to be part of the group.
The G8 was specifically included, and later removed - I guess becuase it wasn't available yet. That is no longer the case - there would seem to be no reason that the G8 shouldn't be fair game (and part of this discussion) if the Charger/300 are - unless, of course, we want to limit this only to FWD Large Sedans
The Genesis, quite a different story - still not available and from the sound of it, still several months away.
Read in the latest MT BTW that the Lucerne will become a different car by 2010 - to share the G8 RWD platform - guess it must be low volume enough that GM figures that Hoden can keep up with the added production. Figuring that the Buick version should be a 'softened' Pontiac, may offer a good choice in this case, if GM doesn't go hog wild with the 'Buickifying'.
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Re: Buick version of G8 [captain2] by tonycd
Mar 24, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 24, 2008 6:28 am)

"The Buick version should be a 'softened' Pontiac, may offer a good choice in this case, if GM doesn't go hog wild with the 'Buickifying'."
 
Only if GM is determined to appeal to the dead.
 
Of course, they are an ever-expanding demographic.
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Re: 2009 Maxima [captain2] by pat HOST
Mar 24, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 24, 2008 6:28 am)

You are right about the limits on the number of car categories than can be listed, and you are right that I said earlier if you want to talk about the G8, have at it, whether it is listed or not. I added it back just now.
 
I did say that I want to avoid including the Genesis in this discussion until we find out if it actually fits the criteria. We won't know that until we know the pricing.
 
So Alex, the bottom line is the G8 is in, other mainstream large sedans that aren't listed are in as long as they do fit the category, and the Genesis is out - for now.
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Blog Post About My Decision To Buy An Azera by cwintermeyer
Mar 24, 2008 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: luvmbooty (Jul 22, 2006 8:44 pm)

I've decided to buy a new 2007 Azera Limited. To help kill the time until I make the purchase, I posted a blog with my thoughts about my decision. The post also includes several video reviews, a couple of Azera commercials and an IIHS crash test video. Feel free to check it out at http://blog.wintermeyer.us/2008/03/hyundai-buddy-hyundai.html
 
- Chris
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Re: Blog Post About My Decision To Buy An Azera [cwintermeyer] by wobbly_ears
Mar 24, 2008 (9:37 pm)
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Replying to: cwintermeyer (Mar 24, 2008 7:28 pm)

Chris (Got your name from your blog )
 
I'm an owner of a 2007 Azzy & before I bought it, I did months & months of research. I always thought I should document all the reviews & Youtube videos somewhere but never got around to it.
 
A good collection & needless to say, would be invaluable to anyone who's looking to find more info about Azzy.
 
Good luck negotiation & do let us know how it went.
 
I had a question though; WHy not go for a 2008? Even though there's no perceptible difference between 2007 & 2008 as you claim on your blog, they say suspension is improved & handling improved in 2008. Hope you're getting a GREAT deal on 2007
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Re: 2009 Maxima [pat] by alexstore
Mar 25, 2008 (4:42 am)
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Replying to: pat (Mar 24, 2008 12:08 pm)

THANKS,
currently g8 V8 according to some magazines is the best performing vehicle on this forum. if FE and resale were higher , this car could have been on my shopping list
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Re: 2009 Maxima [alexstore] by tjc78
Mar 25, 2008 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Mar 25, 2008 4:42 am)

How can you predict resale yet? Actually, I would figure this vehicle to be OK in that dept as there aren't going to be that many to go around and being such a performer at an attractive price. I wouldn't be surprised to see some dealers marking up the first few they get. What kills resale on so many domestics is the large incentives to get them out the door. For example a 2008 Grand Marquis has a $5500 rebate. No wonder they practically give them away used.
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Re: 2009 Maxima [tjc78] by captain2
Mar 25, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 25, 2008 5:28 am)

how much of the G8s resale is going to be determined by $4 gas prices? SUVs remain a very popular vehicle type these days but other than the small CRV types the mfgrs can't give them away and you sure don't want to be trading one in right now. Would bet you see the same on the G8, while it might blow the doors off anything in this group in the straights and in the twisties, after an initial 'honeymoon' FE issues will largely determine how much in demand these cars remain new and used. This is the same thing that happened with the 300C, you suppose that Chrysler having a bit more trouble selling them now than they did a few years back?

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