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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 20, 2008 2:59 pm)  It would only make sense Hyundai takes this time to prep the launch, especially since they have a lot of areas planned (see a few posts earlier for some of the details). I think we can all agree there is a lot riding on the arrival of the Genesis, much more than that Pontiac. Hyundai almost has to come out perfect and there is little room for botching its biggest launch to date... By the way, those superbowl ads take on more meaning than just some marketing of a new car but that is for another topic altogether...
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2008 2:23 pm)  I will see if I can poke some more details on the arrival. Regardless, don't be surprised if some dealers receive their shipments earlier than others (that actually is the case on most other vehicles as well). Also, similar to Nissan's GT-R, certain Hyundai US dealers will not receive the Genesis sedan.
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 20, 2008 12:32 pm) I, too, have personally seen, inspected and sat in both cars. The Genesis is worlds more luxurious in ambience, materials and equipment. The G8 is rather spartan, with a lot of gray-black and plastic aluminum, and exudes the intent to go fast for cheap (relatively speaking). They will not share an audience. In all candor, there are only two possible explanations why Captain2 seems to consistently say such implausible things. One is that he loves the attention that comes from making "controversial" (i.e., silly) statements. For the sake of charity, I'll assume it's that reason and not the other one. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 20, 2008 6:59 am) Other than the recent, and now discontinued GTO, what other "performance cars" is Pontiac featuring? |
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Replying to: dborth (Mar 21, 2008 12:32 am) Pontiac has a very long history in racing: NASCAR in the fifties and sixties, Trans Am in the late sixties and early seventies, as well as being very active in drag racing for years. They have fielded an exotic road racer most recently. Their Trans Am models have been in the marketplace until very recently, and if you've ever driven a WS6 T/A, you'd know what performance is. They may not have had a performance car for the past couple years, but, IMO, most Americans have no problem with tying Pontiac with perfomance. Hyundai, OTOH, may have fielded a World Rally Car ( a series that is basically unknown in the USA ), but what's their racing history?
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Replying to: cobrazera (Mar 21, 2008 2:54 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Mar 21, 2008 6:58 am) I will say that Pontiac is the sportiest make in GM's mainstream lineup. Through the 80s and 90s that was because of the Trans-Am and plastic body cladding. In the 21st Century, they haven't had anything notable though. |
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Replying to: dborth (Mar 21, 2008 12:32 am) There are a number of mfgrs. that cultivate a performance image IMO - Nissan and Pontiac for example and also a number of mfgrs that don't have that kind of image - Toyota and Hyundai among those. The comment was meant to suggest that Pontiac may have a little easier time selling something like the G8 than Hyundai will have selling the Genesis - simply because I believe people expect that kind of car from them.
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 20, 2008 6:31 pm) As far as the ads during the Superbowl...even Hyundai had to have speculated a release earlier this year. Why would you show the world your next offering and not roll it out 'til 8 months later??? That makes little to no sense at all. You don't see movie previews 8 months in advance, do you? Hyundai almost has to come out perfect and there is little room for botching its biggest launch to date... Seems like they are already botching it up. They show the Superbowl ads, which would lead everyone that saw it to believe it was going to be arriving soon. Now that I have though about it...Hyundai hasn't shown anything else about the Genesis because they don't want to kill the hype behind it by showing ads for it for the next 8 months. However, they have lost a little credibility because everyone that saw those ads is looking around wondering, "Where's that new Hyundai???" Heck...even the folks at the Pontiac stand said the G8 was slated to hit the showrooms 6-8 weeks after the autoshow at the end of January. Well...they are already at dealers here in the DM Metro area.
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 20, 2008 6:40 pm) I'm also pretty certain that there will be a lot of Hyundai dealers that won't get the Genesis. In my area, I can think of 3 that would get them simply because they are high volume dealers and their service departments are impeccable. I just hope the non-high volume dealers that still offer great customer service aren't left out...they could be hurt by this. |
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