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6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Pontiac G8 [captain2] by louiswei
Mar 20, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 20, 2008 8:22 am)

Yes Captain, currently the G8 production is limited by Holden but I've read it somewhere before that GM is planning to start making them here in the states sometimes in the very near future. It'll probably be assembled under the same roof as the 2010 Chevy Camaro.
 
I agree that the Pontiac wouldn't appeal to the prospective 5er buyers just like the Genesis wouldn't. However, there are those people who are lusting after the 5er but couldn't afford one and I think they are the main potential customers for the both 5er-wannabes (Genesis more luxurious and G8 more performance).
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [tjc78] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 20, 2008 8:26 am)

So maybe offer a toned down version of the 3.6 in the lesser trimmed models???
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Re: Pontiac G8 [louiswei] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 20, 2008 9:04 am)

I agree that the Pontiac wouldn't appeal to the prospective 5er buyers just like the Genesis wouldn't. However, there are those people who are lusting after the 5er but couldn't afford one and I think they are the main potential customers for the both 5er-wannabes (Genesis more luxurious and G8 more performance).
 
I could SWEAR that I've said this before!!!
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [allmet33] by tjc78
Mar 20, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2008 9:42 am)

So maybe offer a toned down version of the 3.6
 
I personally don't believe there should be more than one engine choice... however, along your lines of thinking the direct injection version from the CTS would be the logical choice for the top trim Lucerne while the standard version would be a fine replacement to the 3800.
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Re: Pontiac G8 [allmet33] by louiswei
Mar 20, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2008 9:43 am)

I could SWEAR that I've said this before!!!
 
Yes you did and nobody disagreed with you.
 
The bottom line is that most likely the big boys like 5er/GS/E would not be effected by the G8 and Genesis. In other words: different crowds.
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Re: Pontiac G8 [louiswei] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 20, 2008 9:59 am)

Actually...there was a disagreement about that comment when I made it.
 
You are right, different crowds completely...those that want the 5er/GS/E's...and can afford them, will go right on ahead and get them. Those that want a 5er/GS/E and can't afford them...will take a hard look at the likes of the G8 & Genesis
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [tjc78] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 20, 2008 9:58 am)

I'm still trying to figure why Hyundai went that route when they offered the 3.3 in the Azera. IMO, it was better when they offered the 3.8 standard and just increased the options available as the trim levels went up.
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Re: Pontiac G8 [louiswei] by captain2
Mar 20, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 20, 2008 9:04 am)

you wonder which sells better in the land of 5+ sec. 'performance sedans' a $32k Pontiac or a $40k Hyundai? The interior pics of the G8 I've seen are pretty nice (as are those of the Genesis) , and while missing a few 'doo-dads' it (the G8) can be fairly well equipped. Makes you wonder if Hyundai isn't going to have to slash prices quickly - to compete with the Pontiac...
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Re: Pontiac G8 [captain2] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 20, 2008 10:18 am)

You know...I really don't see the Genesis actually selling for $40K. Will the MSRP be close...sure. However...I see folks paying more like $36-37K OTD for the V-8 Genesis...maybe even as low as $35K.
 
I could be wrong, but I'm basing my opinion on how things went with my Azera. Intially, before it started showing up in showrooms...it was being said the Azera was going to sticker at a tick or two over $30K. However, my OTD price was just over $26K.
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Re: Pontiac G8 [allmet33] by louiswei
Mar 20, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2008 10:26 am)

Okay, if people will be paying $36k for the V8 Genesis then people will be also probably paying $29k for the G8 GT. Same difference.
 
Keep in mind that Hyundai is not the only automaker who sells its cars at below MSRP (or even invoice). You can step into any Lexus dealer and get a deal that's close to the invoice on any GS350 and IS250.

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