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6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [tjc78] by colloquor
Mar 20, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 20, 2008 6:38 am)

Sorry, but I've owned both, and Hyundai's quality is above that of Pontiac. Although not a marker of overall quality, the last Azera I rented for a week had far better exterior and interior fit and finish than either my brother's new Nissan or Honda I owned.
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [colloquor] by tjc78
Mar 20, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: colloquor (Mar 20, 2008 7:06 am)

Notice I said perceptions I would generally agree Hyundai's quality is above Pontiac's current offerings.
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [tjc78] by thegraduate
Mar 20, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 20, 2008 6:38 am)

Its a good thing GM won't be able to produce many because, at FE ratings of 15/24 I just don't see people buying this car in large #s. That 24 is with cylinder deactivation BTW
 
Comparing FE to another GM full-size car, the Pontiac looks really good FE wise. If the 360+ hp Pontiac has 15/24, consider that the
 
197 hp Lucerne has 16/25, and the 275 hp Lucerne has 15/23.
250 hp Charger has 17/24, and the 340 hp Charger has 15/23
255 hp Maxima has 19/25
224hp Grand Marquis has 15/23
 
Suddenly, the Pontiac doesn't look so bad with that 24 hwy number, does it?
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [thegraduate] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2008 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 20, 2008 7:09 am)

The Lucerne could really benefit from GM's 3.6!!!
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [allmet33] by thegraduate
Mar 20, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2008 7:13 am)

Unfortunately (fortunately? ) it would make the Northstar obsolete. I think just the 6-speed auto would help!
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [thegraduate] by tjc78
Mar 20, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 20, 2008 7:09 am)

Good point Grad.... however the type of driver buying the G8 most likely will never hit those #s.... I know I wouldn't
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [allmet33] by tjc78
Mar 20, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2008 7:13 am)

The Lucerne could really benefit from GM's 3.6!!!
 
That's an undstatement!
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [colloquor] by captain2
Mar 20, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: colloquor (Mar 20, 2008 7:06 am)

I've owned both, and Hyundai's quality is above that of Pontiac
I would generally agree with this, I feel that the Koreans are making a 'better' car than 'Detroit', and have been for at least the last 5 years or so. BUT, I'm not so sure that the average (uninformed) carbuyer Joe thinks so. Performance perceptions, Pontiac 'wins', hands down
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [thegraduate] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2008 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 20, 2008 7:19 am)

Well...with the way gas is heading, the Northstar variant wouldn't get much love anyway. Personally, if GM upgraded the Lucerne to the 3.6, they could make that available in the top of the line trim and leave the current version in the lower trim levels.
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [tjc78] by captain2
Mar 20, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 20, 2008 6:38 am)

supposedly different animals although it's kinda beyond me how we can call the 125 cf (interior), 115" WB, 200" long, and 4000 lb. G8 a 'sports car'
and I guess it depends on how close to Hyundai's amusing claims (about the Germans looking over their shoulder) that the Genesis actually is.

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