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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: New Maxima [captain2] by tjc78
Mar 19, 2008 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 11:13 am)

The Maxima is, after all, the Nissan semi-lux flagship.We'll see.
 
Judging by the interior I would say absolutely. The driving dynamic will most likely be more weighted to the sporty end than lux, but that is the case with most Nissans. I must say I am curious about other things such as FE, interior space and of course pricing. I would think this vehicle all loaded up may be only a tad under 40K.
 
As for the CVT and possible TS issues, the only way to find out is to wait until they hit the lots and drive one.
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Re: Live Photo [captain2] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 12:08 pm)

You're right...what one man doesn't like, another man might love. Like I said...seeing it online...I'm not ga-ga over it, but seeing it in person might change my perception of it. The interior...well, THAT I'm in love with. I do love the lines of the car, very sleek with some sexy curves to it. The nose...well, that's the part that I'm on the fence about...that and the way the hood is integrated. From the back, it still carries the Maxima look though...I like how they managed to do that.
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Pontiac G8 by tncarman
Mar 19, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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I am really looking forward to the Pontiac G8. It seems like a great car, with all the power, handling capabilites, and comfort you could want. Plus the styling is great in my opinion.
 
Watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJC0nzzm4xk
 
(Great commercial too)
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Re: Pontiac G8 [tncarman] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: tncarman (Mar 19, 2008 12:41 pm)

The styling is the one thing that the critics are knocking the G8 on. Other than that...the performance aspect definitely receiving rave reviews. Those that like the G8 would more than likely also like the Charger (as discussed before).
 
I'll have to wait till I get home to view the clip on YouTube...firewall here blocks it.
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Re: Pontiac G8 [allmet33] by captain2
Mar 19, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 19, 2008 12:45 pm)

the 300C/Charger I think you'll find almost have to be in SRT trim to keep up with what I've seen the G8 doing in tests (lower 5s), something that pushes the Chrysler products at (or close to) $40k, while the referenced G8 GT comes in at around $32k. Wonder what percentage of the imported G8s are scheduled to be the V6 instead of the V8. Performance notwithstanding, it'll be interesting to see how many 'HP freaks' that Pontiac can find in these days of $4 gas. The car almost is assured of being successful - it is essentially a 'limited' production item. Would imagine there already is a rather serious waiting line.
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Re: Pontiac G8 [captain2] by louiswei
Mar 19, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 1:18 pm)

The 300C/Charger has NOTHING on the G8.
 
From all the reviews I read, the G8 is really a poor man's 5-series and on the other hand the 300C/Charger is just a muscle car with 4 doors.
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Body double? by cdmuile
Mar 19, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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There's a picture in the current issue of 'Automobile ' magazine taken from above showing the G8 and 5 Series side by side. The resemblance is uncanny. A perfect example of "Design 101's" adage: Form follows function.
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Re: Pontiac G8 [louiswei] by captain2
Mar 20, 2008 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 19, 2008 1:49 pm)

since obviously neither of us has ever driven one I don't know - but I guess I read the same 'rave' reviews you do and can't say I disagree. What is strange though is that there is a whole bunch of 'German' design and engineering in the 300 and the G8 is simply a relabelled Aussie Holden - apparently they must have been building some pretty good cars down under. The G8 is a big car just like the 300, how it would be that much better just doesn't 'figure'.
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Pontiac vs. Hyundai by captain2
Mar 20, 2008 (5:59 am)
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an interesting question since both manufacturers are coming out with similar 'efforts' at a 'poor man's BMW - which company is perceived to make a better car and therefore might stand a better chance of succeeding with it?
 
IMO, probably Pontiac and not because of quality perceptions - more like that Pontiac is generally accepted as a source of performance cars (the numbers would indicate that the Pontiac V8 should blow the doors off of the Genesis) , whereas I think Hyundai has got a battle on its hands in terms of quality and/or performance car perceptions.
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Re: Pontiac vs. Hyundai [captain2] by tjc78
Mar 20, 2008 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 20, 2008 5:59 am)

May I suggest that you are comparing two different animals here? The Pontiac will be a sports car in V8 form. The V6 IMO will be just an also ran. Its a good thing GM won't be able to produce many because, at FE ratings of 15/24 I just don't see people buying this car in large #s. That 24 is with cylinder deactivation BTW.
 
The Genesis OTOH is trying more to be a luxury car that happens to be fast. Until proven otherwise I don't think this car will be a handler. In the 3.8 form will be plenty fast and would think FE #s in the 18/28 range. As for the V8 they will sell some, but I will be willing to bet the 3.8 is the volume model.
 
As for quality perceptions I would say Hyundai and Pontiac are about equal here..... which to say isn't that great.

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