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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 19, 2008 6:55 am) that would be an understatement - the problem is I'm not sure that the 3.5 isn't still, other than at least, now its producing a reasonable number of horses as it 'grinds' away. This, IMO, is a major problem with CVTs, driving one - the computer interprets your intent (like how fast you want to accelerate) by how hard and fast you hit the accelerator and then will set a 'gear' (more properly a 'gear ratio' ) that will best accomplish what it thinks you intend. In actual practice, after you hit that accelerator, the engine will seemingly stay at some relatively high rpm while the gear ratios continually change behind it. The car seems to be continually 'catching up' and a very non traditional feeling. No rev up- shift/rev up-shift like we all grew up with. The reason I think it was such a tough sell in the 500 is because if you are going to use a CVT that you had better also have an engine that sounds (and feels) happy at those higher rev ranges. The VQ, OTH, is a great engine that IMO is beginning to gray slightly - in applications (like in the M, for example) where the engine is really asked (thru tranny gearing) to put out, it too starts to also feel a bit 'strained'. I worry about 290hp out of the VQ especially in combination with a CVT. The Maxima is, after all, the Nissan semi-lux flagship.We'll see.
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 11:13 am) With the upgrade of the interior, the Max has definitely leaped into the semi-lux category along with the Avalon and Azera. I really do like the Infiniti-ish interior...it makes one want to be IN the car. Now the only problem would be seeing it in person to see if the exterior makes me feel the same way.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 19, 2008 11:05 am)  You're right, Nissan certainly knows that, heck - they invented the idea . Enough talk about TS, we'll just have to see if Nissan takes enough of the guts of the car away (see Acura TL-S) so that the problem isn't too severe. As much of a Nissan fan as I am, I'm willing to bet that the new Maxima falls short in its '4DSC' revival though - simply because there is a bunch more to a 'sports coupe' than simply being able to get to 60 in something less than 6 seconds.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 19, 2008 11:22 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 11:30 am)  I can see the new Max pushin 0-60 in the low 6's, don't see it breaking the 6 second mark, ultimately...it has too many luxury appointments that add weight. As you've stated before, the CVT may not be the best way to put the power down on the pavement, so that could hurt it in terms of outright acceleration, as compared to if it had the same 290 hp coupled to it's current tranny. I guess the one thing we have no choice on, is that we have to wait and see!
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 11:36 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 19, 2008 11:42 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 11:52 am)
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