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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 1:07 pm) The magic number that keeps getting thrown around is 300 and up, but we aren't talking taking the Max over 300 hp or even up to it.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 1:15 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 12:05 pm) 1) After reading your post #5873 that basically blames the current Maxima's torque steer on every factor except solar flares, I was about to point out what you'd missed -- until you basically contradicted the implications of your post #5873 in post #5875, by acknowledging that the current Altima owes some of its torque steer reduction to that improved halfshaft geometry. That's the real reason why the current Maxima (built on the previous Altima) has more torque steer than the similarly sized, similarly powered Altima. 2) The '92 Maxima with the top engine had "serious torque steer issues"? Sir, as chance would have it, I own the 190-horsepower 1992 Nissan Maxima SE, which I bought new and have driven (with religious maintenance) for nearly 16 years. It absolutely does not have "serious torque steer issues." In fact, my wife's four-cylinder, four-wheel-drive '03 Honda CR-V has much more torque steer than my Maxima.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:37 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Mar 19, 2008 3:34 am) On some other notes, I like the interior and looks as the tech packages will be nice. But, why only 9.3GB for the music system? Hard drive space is cheap. Notice the shifter is offset closer to the driver, (wonder where they got that from?) Still no nod whether FWD or RWD.
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 1:26 pm)
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Replying to: tonycd (Mar 18, 2008 6:12 pm) well, then, you have a great car, I got almost 300k on mine before the tranny cratered at which point the $3500.00 to fix the tranny was more than the car was worth. The tranny failure BTW probably due to my own neglect. However, if you don' think that car has some torque steer issues then I would respectfully suggest that you may not know what it is. It was worse then what it is in my wife's 03 Altima 10 years later, despite the extra 50hp - any test of older or recent Maximas and V6 Altimas will generally always mention this. As far as the ability to 'engineer out' torque steer - sure it's been happening for years and the difference between the TS in the 92 Maxima vs. the same condition 11 years later in that Altima is a good example. I guess you must be hoping that Hyundai gets around to putting that pumped up 3.8 in the Azera - I would wager they won't and further would guess that they may compromise an otherwise good drivetrain if they do. The key word here is 'may' - but IMO 290 hp engines do not belong in FWD cars and logically the stronger the engine the worse the problem - but there is no 'magic number'- simply too many things that go into it. If you really want to feel and 'fight' a little torque steer, go out and find a vintage Saab 9-3 Viggen, turbo 4 banger, and more of a handful than a Impala SS or any Nissan product ever thought of being. Or drive the current Aura XR, a little less of the same stuff. You can as many HP as you want, BTW, and Hyundai may develop some sort of 'cure' that successfully hides all that a high school physics book would teach you - but something that still won't change: you'll still have 60% or your over the driven front wheels and the car will still be a plowing understeering nightmare. Not to worry though you might finally get a car that can 'outdrag' even that Impala.  I hate to think that the evaluation of any car has sunk to the depths of how many HP it has - because it is only a small part of what a good car is - especially in this class.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 19, 2008 5:15 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 19, 2008 3:58 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 19, 2008 5:52 am)
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