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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 9:48 am) wishful thinking I'm afraid  - why oh why is anybody going to spend $45k on an M35, then? I forgot, who's in front - you or me? 
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 9:53 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 9:48 am) this is an interesting concept - it may not be possible. Think about it, the Toyota 2GR has been around for about 4 years now and nobody yet has approached it HP vs. FE (efficiency) . You would logically think that improvements in those technologies would have somebody (I'm thinking Honda here) come up with something 'better' in that period of time. Hasn't happened yet - so I wonder if there aren't some sort of efficiency 'limits' within the current bounds of technology
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 9:53 am) I know what you are saying, but.... people spend $40 K for an ES350 and we all know what is under the "L" in that car! P.S. I think you are still in front of the line! |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 10:05 am) Quite possibly correct.. however IF the Max was to go RWD w/ the 3.7 I'll bet a paycheck the M35 would quickly become the M37!
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 10:08 am) May be on to something here... I think part of the reason the 2GR is so efficient is mostly due to engine design, but also tranny programming geared for economy, and Toyota does know how to shave off the pounds. I know I am verging OT but I am stunned that Honda had to resort to cylinder deactivation in the new Accord to help with the FE #s |
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 11:02 am) Then again, they can leave the 3.5 in the Max and squeeze it for another 15 hp and leave it at that. Does the Max necessarily have to go to RWD if they go with the 3.7? Why can't it be toned down to 285 hp?
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 11:18 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 11:42 am) So...if they go with the CVT in the Max, it's possible to see something close to 300 hp in a FWD car, right?
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 11:48 am) There are and have been many FWD cars over the years that TS has been an issue - some with substantially less power than what we're talking about here, things have improved. I had a 92 Maxima that had some serious torque steer and 'only' about 190 hp. So its not all about any specific amount of power causing the problem, there are design issues like suspension geometries etc involved as well.
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