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...the diesel that looks to be going in the future Veracruz will find it's way into the Genesis and or Azera later on down the road as well. Scroll down and read the entry for the 2010 Veracruz Diesel |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:27 am) What I don't see happening is Nissan not putting some reasonable power in the Max Diesel (it is a Maxima after all) a condition that would certainly mean RWD - because a diesel capable of moving a 4000 lb.(or so) car in any sort of Maxima-like manner would have to put out in excess of 220 hp and likely well over 400 lb ft of torque would come with that - to 'level' the playing field with its gasoline engined cousins. Maybe only wishfull thinking on my part - a change to RWD - but I wouldn't want to drive a 300hp/280 lb ft Maxima, never mind one that has say 220hp and 420 lb ft.- as FWD cars |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:37 am) However, I want to know about the mechanicals. Tune the VQ just south of 300HP, 5 or 6 speed auto, tame the TS and FE similar to my Av and I will seriously consider it. OTOH..... make me even happier throw in the 3.7 and RWD and I'll be standing in line with the Captain to get mine. |
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 9:48 am) wishful thinking I'm afraid  - why oh why is anybody going to spend $45k on an M35, then? I forgot, who's in front - you or me? 
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 9:53 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 9:48 am) this is an interesting concept - it may not be possible. Think about it, the Toyota 2GR has been around for about 4 years now and nobody yet has approached it HP vs. FE (efficiency) . You would logically think that improvements in those technologies would have somebody (I'm thinking Honda here) come up with something 'better' in that period of time. Hasn't happened yet - so I wonder if there aren't some sort of efficiency 'limits' within the current bounds of technology
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 9:53 am) I know what you are saying, but.... people spend $40 K for an ES350 and we all know what is under the "L" in that car! P.S. I think you are still in front of the line! |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 10:05 am) Quite possibly correct.. however IF the Max was to go RWD w/ the 3.7 I'll bet a paycheck the M35 would quickly become the M37!
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 10:08 am) May be on to something here... I think part of the reason the 2GR is so efficient is mostly due to engine design, but also tranny programming geared for economy, and Toyota does know how to shave off the pounds. I know I am verging OT but I am stunned that Honda had to resort to cylinder deactivation in the new Accord to help with the FE #s |
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 11:02 am) Then again, they can leave the 3.5 in the Max and squeeze it for another 15 hp and leave it at that. Does the Max necessarily have to go to RWD if they go with the 3.7? Why can't it be toned down to 285 hp?
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