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Re: New Maxima [captain2] by tjc78
Mar 18, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 7:52 am)

I just figured out why I like the styling of the new Max so much.....dead ringer for the Lexus GS IMO
 
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Re: Genesis is Coming [captain2] by tjc78
Mar 18, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 7:11 am)

also that the VSC' s default condition was on in any case in your Solara
 
It only had Trac but absolutely always on when you started the car.
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Re: New Maxima [tjc78] by allmet33
Mar 18, 2008 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 8:28 am)

Huh? I see similarities between the front & rear fenders, but that's about it. Nose is totally different and trunk isn't squared off like the GS. The Max actually looks sleeker IMO. Notice the "B" pillars are raked back a bit on the Max, on the GS, they look almost verticle. Not wild about the way the headlights wrap the corners on the Max, the tail lights are okay. One thing I don't like on the Max is now the hood is done. Instead of being incorporated into the design, it looks like it was thrown on after the fact. If they had incorporated the top of the nose into the hood and brought the edges straight down...would have been a better look...IMO.
 

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I'm wondering if... by allmet33
Mar 18, 2008 (8:56 am)
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...the diesel that looks to be going in the future Veracruz will find it's way into the Genesis and or Azera later on down the road as well.
 
Scroll down and read the entry for the 2010 Veracruz Diesel
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Re: New Maxima [allmet33] by captain2
Mar 18, 2008 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:27 am)

Suggest that the 300+ HP they are getting out of the 3.7 is too much for FWD especially since Nissan has never been real good at 'hiding' it anyway. The Maxima can not be the '4DSC' that Nissan would like it to be and still have that nasty TS common to previous Maxs.
What I don't see happening is Nissan not putting some reasonable power in the Max Diesel (it is a Maxima after all) a condition that would certainly mean RWD - because a diesel capable of moving a 4000 lb.(or so) car in any sort of Maxima-like manner would have to put out in excess of 220 hp and likely well over 400 lb ft of torque would come with that - to 'level' the playing field with its gasoline engined cousins. Maybe only wishfull thinking on my part - a change to RWD - but I wouldn't want to drive a 300hp/280 lb ft Maxima, never mind one that has say 220hp and 420 lb ft.- as FWD cars
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Re: New Maxima [allmet33] by tjc78
Mar 18, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:37 am)

IMO the overall shape is identical. Long hood, short trunk, low stance. Yes there are elements that are different.... but not that much from the side profile.
 
However, I want to know about the mechanicals. Tune the VQ just south of 300HP, 5 or 6 speed auto, tame the TS and FE similar to my Av and I will seriously consider it.
 
OTOH..... make me even happier throw in the 3.7 and RWD and I'll be standing in line with the Captain to get mine.
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Re: New Maxima [tjc78] by captain2
Mar 18, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 9:48 am)

make me even happier throw in the 3.7 and RWD and I'll be standing in line with the Captain to get mine
wishful thinking I'm afraid - why oh why is anybody going to spend $45k on an M35, then? I forgot, who's in front - you or me?
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Re: New Maxima [captain2] by allmet33
Mar 18, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 9:53 am)

Right, cause if you change the Max to RWD and pump it north of 300 hp...it will be selling pretty close to $40K. Unless of course they boost the M and start the 35 around $43K
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Re: New Maxima [tjc78] by captain2
Mar 18, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 9:48 am)

Tune the VQ just south of 300HP, 5 or 6 speed auto, tame the TS and FE similar to my Av
this is an interesting concept - it may not be possible.
Think about it, the Toyota 2GR has been around for about 4 years now and nobody yet has approached it HP vs. FE (efficiency) . You would logically think that improvements in those technologies would have somebody (I'm thinking Honda here) come up with something 'better' in that period of time. Hasn't happened yet - so I wonder if there aren't some sort of efficiency 'limits' within the current bounds of technology
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Re: New Maxima [captain2] by tjc78
Mar 18, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 9:53 am)

why oh why is anybody going to spend $45k on an M35, then?
 
I know what you are saying, but.... people spend $40 K for an ES350 and we all know what is under the "L" in that car!
 
P.S. I think you are still in front of the line!

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