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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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New Max by jaymagic
Mar 18, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Interesting photos. I happen to prefer the Azera from the back and like the look of the Max from the front.
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Re: New Maxima [captain2] by allmet33
Mar 18, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 7:52 am)

Eh...I knew what you meant.
 
You're right about how a car photographs...when I first saw the pics of the Azera online...I wasn't wild about it. However, seeing it in the showroom changed all that.
 
With the Max lookin as it has for as long as it has, seeing it in it's new form will take some getting used to (sorta like the new Accords). I too like the current Altima over all it's previous models, but the coupe is even better looking to me. Anyway, I think the Max will be one to grow on folks and once it does...watch out. They did right with the interior IMO...much better job on the inside.
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Re: New Maxima [allmet33] by captain2
Mar 18, 2008 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:05 am)

I am more concerned with the mechanical specs - how much they are trying to squeeze out of the VQ power wise, or even if they might use the 3.7, could it please, please, please be RWD and will it be the only car in this class to offer a MT? Then I consider what it looks like! The current Maxima's style, while I'm not in love with it (especially the interior), is no reason not to buy the car - IMO.
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Re: New Maxima [captain2] by allmet33
Mar 18, 2008 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 8:14 am)

It would make sense for them to use the 3.7 in the Max (another way to truly make it the flagship sedan). I doubt that they will make it RWD (leaving that for their Infiniti line). Power-wise...it has to pump out at least 280-285. It would certainly be class leading power. Maybe they should have kept the current body and refreshed it (like they did with the Altima) and just change the interior to what they show in those pics.
 
I've always liked the body of the current Max (up until the Altima started really looking like it), but the interior was just lacking.
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Re: New Maxima [captain2] by tjc78
Mar 18, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 7:52 am)

I just figured out why I like the styling of the new Max so much.....dead ringer for the Lexus GS IMO
 
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Re: Genesis is Coming [captain2] by tjc78
Mar 18, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 18, 2008 7:11 am)

also that the VSC' s default condition was on in any case in your Solara
 
It only had Trac but absolutely always on when you started the car.
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Re: New Maxima [tjc78] by allmet33
Mar 18, 2008 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 18, 2008 8:28 am)

Huh? I see similarities between the front & rear fenders, but that's about it. Nose is totally different and trunk isn't squared off like the GS. The Max actually looks sleeker IMO. Notice the "B" pillars are raked back a bit on the Max, on the GS, they look almost verticle. Not wild about the way the headlights wrap the corners on the Max, the tail lights are okay. One thing I don't like on the Max is now the hood is done. Instead of being incorporated into the design, it looks like it was thrown on after the fact. If they had incorporated the top of the nose into the hood and brought the edges straight down...would have been a better look...IMO.
 

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I'm wondering if... by allmet33
Mar 18, 2008 (8:56 am)
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...the diesel that looks to be going in the future Veracruz will find it's way into the Genesis and or Azera later on down the road as well.
 
Scroll down and read the entry for the 2010 Veracruz Diesel
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Re: New Maxima [allmet33] by captain2
Mar 18, 2008 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:27 am)

Suggest that the 300+ HP they are getting out of the 3.7 is too much for FWD especially since Nissan has never been real good at 'hiding' it anyway. The Maxima can not be the '4DSC' that Nissan would like it to be and still have that nasty TS common to previous Maxs.
What I don't see happening is Nissan not putting some reasonable power in the Max Diesel (it is a Maxima after all) a condition that would certainly mean RWD - because a diesel capable of moving a 4000 lb.(or so) car in any sort of Maxima-like manner would have to put out in excess of 220 hp and likely well over 400 lb ft of torque would come with that - to 'level' the playing field with its gasoline engined cousins. Maybe only wishfull thinking on my part - a change to RWD - but I wouldn't want to drive a 300hp/280 lb ft Maxima, never mind one that has say 220hp and 420 lb ft.- as FWD cars
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Re: New Maxima [allmet33] by tjc78
Mar 18, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 18, 2008 8:37 am)

IMO the overall shape is identical. Long hood, short trunk, low stance. Yes there are elements that are different.... but not that much from the side profile.
 
However, I want to know about the mechanicals. Tune the VQ just south of 300HP, 5 or 6 speed auto, tame the TS and FE similar to my Av and I will seriously consider it.
 
OTOH..... make me even happier throw in the 3.7 and RWD and I'll be standing in line with the Captain to get mine.

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