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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Genesis is Coming [captain2] by alexstore
Mar 17, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 17, 2008 8:21 am)

I change oil 3750 using synthetic( I baby my car) though I can use 7500 interval with synthetic .
I still have original goodyears on my car with 60k+ , rotate them 7500 and i still have about 20 k+ left on them.
 
in on of the past discussions you mentioned that TCO for Azera was higher than for Avy. As you can see tires do contribute to that.
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Re: Genesis is Coming [alexstore] by thegraduate
Mar 17, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Mar 17, 2008 9:59 am)

WOW.
 
Do you not have a type of Oil Life Monitor on your car?
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Re: Genesis is Coming [thegraduate] by alexstore
Mar 17, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 17, 2008 10:02 am)

I do, however when you baby your car, you follow to lowest manufacturer oil change recommendations.
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Re: Genesis is Coming [thegraduate] by captain2
Mar 17, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 17, 2008 10:02 am)

the Av has a helpful reminder that flashes at you at 5k intervals, which corresponds to mfgr. recommendations.Fortunately the maintainence' light is resettable by the car owner. Not sure I would trust a car's computer to arbitrarily determine how good the oil is, have to wonder if it does it by actually evaluating oil quality or it simply makes a determination based on the type of driving done. Some of the better synthetics claim 15k, buy Mobil 1 at Walmart for $21 or so for 5 quarts and do it every 5k nonetheless, the 2GR takes over 6 quarts
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Re: Genesis is Coming [alexstore] by thegraduate
Mar 17, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Mar 17, 2008 10:15 am)

Interesting. With an oil-life monitor in my car, no recommendations were made except to follow the indicated service codes when the monitor hit 15%.
 
3750 on synthetic seems like double overkill to me. I can see 7500 on synthetic, or 3750 on regular. I go 4,500 miles in my old Accord w/180k miles on regular Castrol.(manual recommends 3750 in stop & go "severe conditions" but 7,500 for normal conditions which I actually fall into).
 
You must do a lot of city driving?
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Re: Genesis is Coming [captain2] by thegraduate
Mar 17, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 17, 2008 10:26 am)

the Av has a helpful reminder that flashes at you at 5k intervals, which corresponds to mfgr. recommendations
 
I see.
 
A certain Toyota competitor's maintenance minder monitors driving style (counting RPM) and doesn't go strictly by mileage. For example, my driving sends me for a service about every 7500, according to the minder, while my dad's car with the same monitor goes about every 6000, since he races around a bit more than I.
 
My old 1996 (this was around a long time before though) has a little colored square under the speedo which you reset yourself by inserting the key into a hole beside it. At 6,000 miles it turns yellow (from green) and at 7500 turns red. It's simple, and doesn't glare at you, but it's kinda handy considering the vehicle's age.
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Re: Genesis is Coming [captain2] by imidazol97
Mar 17, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 17, 2008 10:26 am)

>reminder that flashes at you at 5k intervals,
 
You mean the Avalon does not have an oil life monitor that senses how the engine is being used, temperature, number of starts, miles, speeds, etc., to adjust the life of the oil it's predicitng? I could have a QuickLube sticker onthe windshield tell me the 5000 miles intervals.
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Re: Avalon Outside mirrors [louiswei] by captain2
Mar 17, 2008 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 17, 2008 9:11 am)

always thought the quality/fit n' finish was a level higher on the Lexus labelled products than on the Toyota labelled ones, even ESs. The effects of 'made in Japan' perhaps, but the ES ,while it has always been a 'glorified' Camry, I believe to offer something other than 'free loaner cars' for the extra money despite the 'disdain' that owners of the true RWD Lexus' have for them
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Re: Genesis is Coming [captain2] by louiswei
Mar 17, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 17, 2008 10:26 am)

the Av has a helpful reminder that flashes at you at 5k intervals
 
Captain, if the Avalon uses the same system as my Lexus (which I think it does) then the reminder isn't set to pop up at every 5k miles. Instead, the system actually monitors the oil condition and when it thinks an oil change is required you'll see it flashing at you.
 
I've paid attention to this several times and not once did it pop up at 5k (or 4.9k, 4.8k...) mile exactly from the last oil change.
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Re: Genesis is Coming [imidazol97] by captain2
Mar 17, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 17, 2008 10:38 am)

that's correct - would seem to me to be a whole lot more reliable in terms of the engine getting properly lubricated - your inference being that you would trust some silly computer to evaluate your driving style, so IT can make that decision and IT knows what type oil I put in it? Ridiculous idea IMO, with my heavy highway driving, I am supposed to trust a computer to tell me that after 15k or so, I might want to change my oil and then go argue with some dealer somewhere that is contending that I didn't change the oil (when trying to get out of a warranty claim) that it's all OK 'I did what the computer told me? No thank you - I'll take changing it every 5k - whether some silly computer 'thinks' it needs to be or not.

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