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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 12, 2008 7:02 am)
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Replying to: tonycd (Mar 12, 2008 6:49 am) One thing about CVTs though, if you are going to use one, you better also have an engine that is happy at higher rpms. Fords/Volvo's CVT in the original 500 was a dismal failure because that 3.0 liter engine that came with it besides being down on power was also something not real pleasing at 5000 rpm or so. The new Altima is geared to lower engine speeds and holds the same 2000 rpm or so at 70 that most of the other cars in this group do. Maybe also the reason why the Altima FE is competitive. I still don't understand Nissan's apparent dedication to the CVT - although it has been successful for them - it is interesting that they don't use it in the high end Ms, although I would bet it may be the only tranny available on the new Maxima. |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 12, 2008 7:15 am) IMO, the Maxima has always been a competitive selection in this group, power wise, FE wise, and even size/option level wise. CR has it rated #2 in this group - and it deserves it. A helluva nice car and a different kind of ride for a vehicle in this group. The Altima is, of course, rated at the top of its particular segment and you can certainly contend that two vehicles are quite similar - but the Maxima in terms of perception and reality is definitely still the 'flagship'.
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 12, 2008 7:36 am) The Maxima, in it's current form, is still very competitive amongst the others in this segment (a point I'm not arguing at all). However, if it is upgraded to truly be the Nissan flagship...will it exceed the competition? Maybe, just maybe...the Altima would slide up and compete with the Avalon, Azera, etc. and the Maxima will compete with the Genesis, G8, etc. Maybe???
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 12, 2008 7:48 am) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Mar 12, 2008 8:32 am) Azera buyers end up in a Sonata, if for any other reason, they can't afford the Azera. I can't say that everyone that has gone in to buy an Azera ended up with one, some may feel that they can accept a little less power, slightly less room and still get the same amenities and pay less and be happy. With the Maxima...that doesn't happen. Someone goes in to look at a Maxima and when they see the Altima and what it offers...they're going to feel cheated if they were to get a Maxima (at this point)...I know I would. The Maxima offers nothing that you can't get in the Altima, so yeah...you can get a Maxima for less than an Altima, but which one is the more desireable of the two? In comparing the Azera and Sonata...if you go with the 3.3 V-6...well, the Sonata will win out because the base model Azera offers next to nothing. However, the fully loaded Sonata can't touch the fully loaded Azera and the pricing is justified. The same can't be said of the Maxima/Altima and thus...that is why you probably can get a loaded Max for less than a loaded Altima, but again...which would be the more desirable option?
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 12, 2008 7:48 am) plus Allmet there are minor details that separate Altima and Max
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 12, 2008 5:17 am) Well, in my case none of the after market head unit would fit because even without the GPS screen my car has a fully integrated center stack. It does look good but definitely offers less option for non-OEM upgrades. |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 11, 2008 1:25 pm) Says the pot to the kettle. You've LMAO'd so many times at other people's comments it's a wonder you have one left....
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 12, 2008 8:43 am)
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