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Replying to: joe97 (Feb 25, 2008 1:21 pm) a big 10-4 on the government subsidies if this is the case - a 'modest' 20000 cars/year is nothing relative to the development costs of an entirely new car - in this group I would guess 100000 cars/year would cover things and also provide the Genesis with some of that critical 'market presence and recognition' , that Hyundai needs in general and also something that the Azera has never had. Pontiac is hoping for 40000 G8s/year FWIU which is fine - but only because it is anything but a 'new' car.
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 8:39 am) If someone can afford to pony up the $6K for the Genesis, they may opt for the Avalon instead. That way, they get the security that FWD will offer them, Toyota reliability and everything the Avalon has to offer for that extra $6K. If they are indeed price sensitive...then they will hop their happy tails in fully loaded Azera and call it a day. The Genesis, on the other hand...will be an offering for those that are into the RWD sedans. Considering the Genesis is using a different suspension than the Azera...I truly believe the Genesis will offer the type of ride as expected of a car of the Genesis' nature. In all honesty, if Hyundai pulls it off...I see the Genesis being the classy performer that gives you the best of the 300C and the best of the Charger R/T & G8. Basically...a refined performer with all the bells and whistles. Which, being that kind of offering...split the difference in cost between the G8 & fully loaded 300C.
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Replying to: joe97 (Feb 25, 2008 1:29 pm) I have to disagree here. The 3.8 engine in the Azera while smooth is not the 2GR especially in the upper RPM ranges. As for ride, the Azera rides softer and that may be what you are comparing it to, but that is all subjective.
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 1:36 pm) No govt subsides. Home market. Hyundai sold at least 10,000 (probably like 12K or more) units last month, and it wasn't even a full month. Plus, the home market pricing is higher than the range here. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 1:36 pm) I am sure they can sell that many the question is: can they even produce that many for the US market?
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 25, 2008 3:42 am) Like you said...too soon to really know that for sure. Hyundai could very well surprise all and the Genesis could outperform all 3 (300C, Charger R/T & G8). However, when I said compare the Genesis to them...it was more in terms of what you get for the money. As compared to the G8...the power will be close to the same in V-8 form, the Genesis will get the nod in amenities and features. As compared to the 300C or Charger R/T...the Genesis will offer more power, as well as more features and amenities as well. Concerning performance...we will just have to see what happens when the Genesis actually drops and testing has been conducted to see where it stands as a performance sedan. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 9:00 am) The Genesis can benefit from the same (once it drops). If it holds it's ground well, against the cars it's competing against...the sticker won't be that much of a shock at all...considering everything you would be getting for the price. From the perspective of 'what you get for the money', my Azera has been more than worth every penny. I can only imagine that they learned their mistakes with the Azera and don't make the same ones with the Genesis.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 25, 2008 1:44 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 25, 2008 1:42 pm)
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