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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 25, 2008 7:38 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Feb 25, 2008 10:54 am) agreed , and I don't believe that the 'normal' autobuyer is going to be able to tell the difference by driving them (FWD vs. RWD). Now if they do 'tighten' up the Genesis as opposed to the 'soft' Azera then that same buyer probably does feel the difference. That actually may work to Genesis' disadvantage, making it an even more difficult sale.
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Replying to: dborth (Feb 25, 2008 10:54 am) If someone is happy with the Accord/Camry and looking to upgrade I can guarantee that the last place they'll look is a Hyundai dealership (okay, maybe KIA). Mark my words. |
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Replying to: carolinabob (Feb 25, 2008 10:38 am) Apples and oranges here. Its much more profitable for a manufacturer to build one vehicle different ways than to have two completely different vehicles in the same class. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 10:37 am) I'll believe it when I see it. I believe that it will be no tighter than an Avalon touring. Of course, the RWD and better weight distribution will help things.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 25, 2008 8:09 am) Actually, the trim Genesis expected to have the most deliveries pumps out more horsepower than every other car discussed here recently. The V8 too, also the 3.3  264hp is something very efficient. Hyundai will not have to sell a crazy amount of cars to be measured as a success. A modest 1K-2K/month is a good step tracking up. More importantly, the intangibles the Genesis (and the Genesis Coupe) bring to the table are impossible to quantify.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 25, 2008 1:02 pm) this according to that Hyundai rep. in that MT article but OTH if you look at the Azera or even the Sonata/Elantra/Amanti/Optima, the Koreans have seemingly discovered the virtues  of 'soft', outdoing even Toyota in that respect. That ain't easy. The Genesis - a sports sedan? Like you, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 25, 2008 3:42 am) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 1:23 pm) 
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Replying to: joe97 (Feb 25, 2008 1:21 pm) a big 10-4 on the government subsidies if this is the case - a 'modest' 20000 cars/year is nothing relative to the development costs of an entirely new car - in this group I would guess 100000 cars/year would cover things and also provide the Genesis with some of that critical 'market presence and recognition' , that Hyundai needs in general and also something that the Azera has never had. Pontiac is hoping for 40000 G8s/year FWIU which is fine - but only because it is anything but a 'new' car.
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