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6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2009 maxima [louiswei] by tjc78
Feb 22, 2008 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 22, 2008 11:11 am)

Why do they get better looking cars than the US? Those interiors are great.
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Re: 2009 maxima [tjc78] by captain2
Feb 22, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 22, 2008 12:10 pm)

don't know about that - IMO that mismatched hard grey plastic center stack reminds me of something I would expect in a Chrysler - not good. Note that they are identical in both cars, and even the 'wood' doesn't even give the real thing a passing nod. outside styling though, better.
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Re: 2009 maxima [captain2] by tjc78
Feb 23, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 22, 2008 2:10 pm)

The center stack is a little out of place, but overall I still think it looks pretty good. No plastic wood ever looks that great, even my Avalon looks a little cheesy to me. They improved it with the '08, but fake is fake.
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Re: 2009 maxima [louiswei] by thegraduate
Feb 23, 2008 (10:07 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 22, 2008 11:11 am)

Got Plood?
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Curtains for the Azera? by captain2
Feb 25, 2008 (1:46 am)
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In the current issue of MT, a 'first look' at the Genesis - not an actual road test, but in it a few comments from a Hyundai exec. talking about its anticipated competitors (supposedly the 300/Avalon/Maxima in lieu of those 'premium' brand models we have discussed here) This I'll bite on, although it will not have the 'traditional' Hyundai price advantage over those specific cars. The question is: If the Genesis is supposed to steal away Avalon/Maxima customers (which is more logical) then WHY the Azera - a car more directly comparable that does have that Korean price hook? Sure sounds like the Azera is about to become an orphan - for those who do shop the Hyundai brand, wouldn't the Azera be a far cheaper alternative to Hyundai's own Genesis otherwise?
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Re: Curtains for the Azera? [captain2] by tjc78
Feb 25, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 1:46 am)

IMO only the loaded up versions of the Azera are true competition for the Avalon and Maxima. This brings the car to 30K ( and above). From what I have read the Genesis with the 3.3 will start just under 30K. Sort of a wash. Honestly Hyundai having the Genesis and the Azera is worse than Chevy having the Malibu and Impala, Camry/Av etc. At least those vehicles are different sizes.
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Re: Curtains for the Azera? [tjc78] by captain2
Feb 25, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 25, 2008 7:06 am)

been seeing lots of 'come-on' ads for Maximas lately - at $23-$25K, a price you'll never find for any trim Avalon, and even possibly Azeras. Agree with you on the apparent redundancy of the Azera - if you consider also the likely 'market' for the Genesis.
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Re: Curtains for the Azera? [captain2] by allmet33
Feb 25, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 7:17 am)

Why wouldn't you see a $23-$25K price range for the Azera??? It tops right around $30K as it is!!! The GLS model starts out around $23K.
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Re: Curtains for the Azera? [captain2] by tjc78
Feb 25, 2008 (2:42 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 25, 2008 7:17 am)

I haven't seen prices like that for the Max up here in NJ. If you can truely buy them for that price its a sweet deal.
 
"if you consider also the likely 'market' for the Genesis"
 
I contend the only market for the Genesis is current Av/Az/300/Max/Lucerne etc. You may also get a few CamCord drivers as well looking for a bigger vehicle. I know where you are coming from on the pricing advantage it does shrink when comparing the Genesis to say Avalon, however it may prove to be "more car" for equal money.

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