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Re: 2009 maxima [captain2]
by allmet33
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Feb 21, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 21, 2008 12:36 pm)
Okay...but what does sitting in the car have to do with the platform being the basis for another car that's larger???
There are mid-size SUV's that actually use mid-size sedan platforms. The SUV has more size and room in it.
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Re: 2009 maxima [allmet33]
by louiswei
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Feb 21, 2008 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 21, 2008 12:34 pm)
There is a difference between...
The Impala is based on the CTS
and
The impalas is based on the CTS platform (which is based on the Sigma platform architecture).
I don't have a problem with the later but I do with the former.
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- #5304 of 6844
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Re: 2009 maxima [louiswei]
by allmet33
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Feb 21, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 21, 2008 7:40 am)
Well...daggonit...I orginally said CTS PLATFORM!!!
From post #5257:
I wouldn't be surprised if the future Impala would be sharing the current Cadillac CTS platform.
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Re: 2009 maxima [allmet33]
by scwmcan
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Feb 21, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 21, 2008 12:44 pm)
Okay, going to jump i here (maybe I shouldn't but oh well). First off aparently the sigma platform cannot be stretched any more than it has been for the STS (which from what I have read is not all that much bigger than the CTS in reality) espically in width, so it may not be a good choice for a full sized Imapla to start with. Secondly the platform is also aparently too expensive to use for a main stream car (I am not sure why, but I know I have read it in at least one of the magazines). Thirdly, if the RWD impala does come, it has alreasdy been stated by GM that it will be built on the Holden platform that is being used by the G8 and will be bult in (I belive) the oshawa ontaion plant that current (or used to) builds the grand prix and it's platfoprm mates, this is the plant that is (was) supposed to be retoolled to manufacture the new Camaro if I recall correctly. At that time the pontiac G8's production is (was) supposed to be moved to the same plant as well. All of this could have change with the apparent annoucement that the car has beeen canceled (which after investing the R&D $ would probably be a mistake on GM's part, but stranger things have happened). I think that GM need to have their two mode hybrid availble in their future full sized RWD cars so that they can meet the CAFE requirement in the long term, but that is just in my opinion.
Scott
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Re: 2009 maxima [scwmcan]
by allmet33
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Feb 21, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Feb 21, 2008 1:24 pm)
Scwmcan...I can respect your posting. I mean...based on what you've stated, I can understand the reasons why not, but...intially, it was merely a thought expressed. It has been posted since I originally posted that the future Impala would most likely be based on the G8 platform...makes sense.
In theory, the CTS platform COULD be used, it just wouldn't be in GM's best interest to do so.
Thanks for the post.
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Re: 2009 maxima [allmet33]
by captain2
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Feb 21, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 21, 2008 12:39 pm)
your post 5297 said that I had said that the CTS platform was too small - what I think I said, instead was that the car was too small - because in that respect you are absolutely right - you could build Noah's Ark on any given 'platform'
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Re: 2009 maxima [captain2]
by allmet33
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Feb 22, 2008 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 21, 2008 2:23 pm)
Well...then you were wrong by posting what you posted to begin with as well. I mean...you were wrong, but not wrong. Yes, the CTS itself is small, by my statment referred to the platform. 
I wouldn't be surprised if the future Impala would be sharing the current Cadillac CTS platform.
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Re: 2009 maxima [allmet33]
by tjc78
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Feb 22, 2008 (1:48 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 22, 2008 6:38 am)
I may be nuts.... but, if Chevy needs the Impala in the lineup wouldn't the logical idea be to stretch the Malibu/Aura platform and drop the 3.6 6spd as standard equipment? This would yield the closest thing to an Avalon/Azera in terms of size and performance. I know they won't do it, but just my .02.
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Re: 2009 maxima [tjc78]
by scwmcan
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Feb 22, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 22, 2008 1:48 am)
I think that is basically the alternative to the RWD platform, GM needs to make up it's mind fast as they have already put money into the RWD replacement, and if they are going to drop that they need the new FWD impala quickly (the current car is not as good an alternative as it could be with an extended epsilon II platform and the 3.6 in it) and they have to stop wasting development resources playing with both alternatives.
Scott
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Re: 2009 maxima [scwmcan]
by tjc78
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Feb 22, 2008 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Feb 22, 2008 7:25 am)
IMO let Pontiac have the G8 RWD performance car and give Chevy a revised FWD. I do agree to spend all that $$ and then drop the RWD is foolish, but this is GM we are talking about here. They should take cues from the other makes and just expand on the Malbu/Aura as they are good vehicles and with the 3.6 powertrain fairly competitive.
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