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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 1:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2009 maxima [louiswei] by allmet33
Feb 20, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 20, 2008 10:14 am)

Trust me...there is nothing you can show me when it comes to driving a car. Besides...I don't think I want to turn my car over to someone that thinks a little torque steer is uncontrollable. LMAO I mean...I can understand if you were talking about enough torque to yank the steering wheel out of your hand, but that is hardly the case in any of the cars in this forum.
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Re: Due to CAFE, Lutz declares RWD Impala and Monaro dead [louiswei] by captain2
Feb 20, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 20, 2008 9:57 am)

from the sound of this - it does sound like the bean counters are going to have their way, and we will be denied a much need improved Impala etc. If there is one thing that GM (and Ford/Chrysler) ought to be able to do, it is to build big ole RWD V8s, that suck enough gas that'll have you wishing that gas was 50 cents/gal. again. Understand why the new 35mpg (eventual requirement) CAFE would have GM shying away - but OTH, if they make enough of them 'flex fuel' even that may not be a problem, because they don't count the alcohol consumed in the FE calculations.
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Re: 2009 maxima [louiswei] by imidazol97
Feb 20, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 20, 2008 10:13 am)

The "new" Avalon is based on the previous Camry chassis. The current Camry and ES are... well, figure it out.
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Re: 2009 maxima [imidazol97] by louiswei
Feb 20, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 20, 2008 1:30 pm)

Yeah, they are platform mates, but that's different than...
 
The ES is "based" on Camry
The Escalade is "based" on Yukon
The G8 is "based" on Commodore
The Sierra is "based" on Silverado
 
Get it?
 
No matter what, the RWD Impala would not be "based" on the CTS simply because it's not the right size.
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Re: 2009 maxima [imidazol97] by tjc78
Feb 20, 2008 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 20, 2008 1:30 pm)

"The "new" Avalon is based on the previous Camry chassis"
 
No it isn't. The '05+ Avalon was a complete redesign. Yes it is now shared throughout the line, but was a new platform not the same one dating back to the early 90s Camry.
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Guys... by pat HOST
Feb 20, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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Let's try to stick to the mainstream large sedans here, please. We have other discusisons for the other cars - I know all of you know where they are located.
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Re: 2009 maxima [allmet33] by thegraduate
Feb 20, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 20, 2008 11:06 am)

Besides...I don't think I want to turn my car over to someone that thinks a little torque steer is uncontrollable. LMAO I mean...I can understand if you were talking about enough torque to yank the steering wheel out of your hand, but that is hardly the case in any of the cars in this forum.
 
I am responding against my better judgment here, but I believe that poster's definition of "uncontrollable" has been identified as the fact that the car hasn't controlled the torque steer, not that the car itself cannot be controlled safely.
 
To all...aren't we stuck in a loop here?
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Re: 2009 maxima [tjc78] by imidazol97
Feb 20, 2008 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 20, 2008 2:03 pm)

"Discreetly Fast
Redesigned from the ground up, the Avalon now rides on a stretched version of the current Camry platform."
 
from Edmunds' 5-car comparison tests of full-sized sedans in 2005.
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Re: 2009 maxima [imidazol97] by tjc78
Feb 20, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 20, 2008 4:30 pm)

"Toyota says that the all-new Avalon is the most-American vehicle they've produced to date, a claim that's difficult to dispute, as the car was styled in California, engineered in Michigan, and will be built in Kentucky. Speeding from final approval to production in a mere eighteen months, the Avalon boasts more power and an improved interior"
 
This is from Automobile mag. I read the article you mentioned above, it is probably the only article that I have ever read saying the 05+ Av is based on the previous Camry. So either an Edmund's.com reporter is wrong (I've noticed errors before in some of the reviews) or every other site/mag has a different meaning of "all new". Anyway, even if it is the same it must be highly modified as the suspension parts are all completely different and the wheelbase is at least 3" or 4" greater.

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