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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 20, 2008 6:23 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 20, 2008 6:19 am) Scott |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 20, 2008 5:28 am) Apparently you have no idea how to "stomp on the gas" thus you never experienced some serious torque steer. Now I understand why you think TS in a FWD is not a big deal.
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It's finally (semi) official: RWD cars like a new Pontiac GTO (and Holden Monaro) and Impala are "gone for now." Bob Lutz has been making noises about it for a while, and every announcement gets more and more certain that the front wheels will be pulling more GM cars. Just a month ago, Lutz told Forbes "That's where the internal debate [on the Impala] is now -- no firm decision at this point, but my guess is that we will come down on the side of the front-drive car." By the time of last week's Detroit Auto Show, Lutz was telling GoAuto "I think the (Monaro/Pontiac GTO) is gone for now.... [T]hat's not the end of the market where we want to stimulate demand. We have to find ways to stimulate demand and desirability in cars that will get us closer to the 35 MPG average." How will that be done? Perhaps by using the Alpha midsize platform and making CUV's. However, the Alpha still hasn't been signed off on, and won't be until GM figures out what -- and how many -- standards it will need to adhere to when the CAFE tug-of-war ends. Source: Autoblog
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 20, 2008 7:09 am) The CTS is midsize at best but the Impala is a full-size sedan.
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 20, 2008 8:55 am) I never said torque steer in a FWD is not a big deal, find any post where I said that. I said that torque steer in my Azera was no big deal. Get it right.
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 20, 2008 8:59 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 20, 2008 9:06 am) Avalon and Camry also share platform but is the Camry "based" on Avalon? The RWD Impala (if it happens, which is highly doubtful at the moment) will highly likely to share platform with the CTS (there aren't that many RWD platforms in GM anyway) but it's a stretch to say that the Impala is "based" on the CTS.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 20, 2008 9:05 am) 
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Replying to: cobrazera (Feb 20, 2008 3:26 am) and they all do whether it be Azera, Avalon, Maxima, Impala etc etc.because it is simply the results of the laws of physics. Nissan products, for one reason or another, have been a champion of torque steer issues ever since the late 80s and the 190hp Maxima. My Avalon OTH despite substantailly more hp and torque, it is barely discernable - but it is there. Don't know that anybody can really contend that the TS is dangerous, and some even find it kinda invigorating. Nonetheless combine even more torque from a big ole V8, in a heavily front weight biased car all going to those same front wheels- and you are simply asking for problems. PS If you ever get a chance, drive a little Mazdaspeed3, ~260hp turbocharged 4 banger, and a real hoot from a power perspective (sub 6 0-60s) but also a real handful if you are not expecting all the torque steer. Perhaps the ultimate 'rice rocket', but certainly not a sports sedan of any sort. |
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