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Replying to: alexstore (Feb 08, 2008 12:19 pm) I seem to remember the 05 Max I looked at had reclining rear seats - like the Avalon I ended up in - the seats are/were an option?
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 08, 2008 12:19 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 08, 2008 12:57 pm) I think Genesis is fine with its gadget contents, as long as Hyundai makes sure that there won't be major hiccups along the way. In order to be successful, this car needs a record like the original LS400: spotless.
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 08, 2008 1:22 pm) SAAB HARDLY falls into the luxury category as they are geared more towards sport. If any of them qualify, it would be the 9-7 and MAYBE the 9-5. Well...at least with the gadgets...they went with quality. Lexicon (Harmon Kardon...same company that makes Infinity) and the transmissions being used are either by ZF or Aisin (depending on which model you get). I know the in-dash screen in the '08 Azera is by LG, so I would imagine the same would be true for the Genesis.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 08, 2008 1:29 pm) Marketing is great. Hyundai could say it built the thing to take out a Testosserosa, but here on earth....
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 08, 2008 1:29 pm) Now you understand why I was pushing for Hyundai to establish a separate luxury brand with the Genesis? As for gadgets, trust me, a true luxury car doesn't make or break with it. Forgive me to say this but a blue-collar kind of luxury (your definition for Genesis) will never be the mainstream luxury (where the big boys play). The Genesis will no doubt be a worthwhile flagship for Hyundai and an excellent car for its price but it is still not a luxury car. |
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Feb 08, 2008 1:46 pm) The Azera gives one a tiny taste of luxury and the Genesis is supposed to be head & shoulders above it. We shall see come the latter part of this year. |
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Replying to: jaymagic (Feb 08, 2008 8:32 am) whatever the h--- that is - another award bought and paid for by whoever is willing to 'pay' to use the 'title'. JDP is the same way - money changes hands so it must be taken with a grain of salt. Ever notice that the mfgrs. that tend to 'win' these 'awards' are the ones that need it the most - amazing! All this said, I have no issue with it, the Azera is underpriced and is obviously underappreciated judging by its sales volume and by its resale values. . |
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 08, 2008 1:22 pm) Luxury car is defined by what it offers, not by the badge on the front of the car. Also, if the Genesis is offered as a separate make or car line, then that will artificially inflate the price of the car. Remember, we are talking about entry level "luxury" cars. The big question is will Hyundai support it, will it do what they say it will, will it be problem free? |
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Replying to: carolinabob (Feb 08, 2008 2:21 pm) You may need to interact with the real world once a while... Entry level luxury cars by the industry definition means the entry models from the luxury brands (BMW, MB, Lexus, Audi...). Genesis by no means is a entry level luxury cars. It is a near luxury car which includes cars from mainstream brands that include most of the luxury features and gadgets that can be found on the luxury cars. I didn't make this up, do some research then you'll get what I am talking about. Duke basketball team might be good enough to beat Atlanta Hawks but that doesn't mean it is a professional basketball team.
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