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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: What about MPG? [captain2] by allmet33
Feb 08, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 08, 2008 7:46 am)

Guess what...it costs me about $50 to fill up too? However...if from "E", it would cost a bit more as the Azera has a larger tank than the Avalon.
 
Once again, you fail to understand the resale value thing. That's okay, you've gotta one track mind, so I understand the problem here. The point of the whole resale thing that I was making...the Azera owner doesn't lose that much more in value when compared to the Avalon owner. Simple, cut and dry. I guess a better way to put it...the percentage of depreciation is close. So...technically, you're right...the Avalon will be worth more, however...in order to do so, it had to cost more intially. You wouldn't be saying that if both the Avalon and Azera were priced the same, and that would really be the only way you might understand what I've been trying to say all along.
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Re: What about MPG? [jaymagic] by louiswei
Feb 08, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Feb 08, 2008 8:32 am)

What's value?
 
If you value "to get the most for less money" then Azera is the best value in the group.
 
On the other hand, if the value is "to have the superior (numero uno) car without paying too much premium" then Avalon will win hands down.
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Re: What about MPG? [louiswei] by kdshapiro
Feb 08, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 08, 2008 9:16 am)

Some people believe value is the number of gadgets/$. As an analogy, these people are not BMWs target customer. If I were buying a $100K car, I would want every gadget available.
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Re: What about MPG? [kdshapiro] by joe97
Feb 08, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Feb 08, 2008 9:48 am)

Wouldn't Genesis then win the best value for number of gadgets/$? By a hefty margin, might I add.
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Re: What about MPG? [joe97] by louiswei
Feb 08, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Feb 08, 2008 10:11 am)

Yes it will.
 
And if gadgets/$ is what floats your boat then Genesis should be a great option.
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Re: What about MPG? [louiswei] by alexstore
Feb 08, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 08, 2008 9:16 am)

though I am a Maxima Owner, I agree with you 100%. Avalon is the winner hands down. Folding seats should have been an option
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Re: What about MPG? [louiswei] by captain2
Feb 08, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 08, 2008 10:15 am)

And if gadgets/$ is what floats your boat then Genesis should be a great option.
'gadgets' (even though people seem to want them) - would be the last thing I would do if I were Hyundai - trying to shed this 'Korean' car image. The more complicated the Genesis is with needless gimcracks the less reliable it will logically be. Believe the Germans (among others), technology is a double edge sword. So, therefore, manufacture a simple, straight forward and well-built car and then maybe more people will change their attitudes, and sooner or later some other brand can become the butt of all those car jokes.
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Re: What about MPG? [alexstore] by captain2
Feb 08, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: alexstore (Feb 08, 2008 12:19 pm)

alexstore-
I seem to remember the 05 Max I looked at had reclining rear seats - like the Avalon I ended up in - the seats are/were an option?
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Re: What about MPG? [captain2] by allmet33
Feb 08, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 08, 2008 12:19 pm)

So...what would YOU not put in the Genesis? Be careful, you take too much out and then it no longer qualifies for the entry level luxury segment.
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Re: What about MPG? [allmet33] by louiswei
Feb 08, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 08, 2008 12:57 pm)

First of all, the Genesis is not in the entry luxury segment. That segment belongs to cars like A4, 3er, C-class, IS, G35, TL, CTS and maybe (a big maybe) 9-3, S60 and MKZ.
 
I think Genesis is fine with its gadget contents, as long as Hyundai makes sure that there won't be major hiccups along the way. In order to be successful, this car needs a record like the original LS400: spotless.

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