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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: What about MPG? [allmet33] by louiswei
Feb 07, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 07, 2008 7:00 am)

I did, what does that have to do with the current convo?
 
Did that TL trail so far behind that it couldn't even see your tail lights? Because according to you that's the definition of "getting smoked".
 
 
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Re: What about MPG? [louiswei] by allmet33
Feb 07, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 07, 2008 9:04 am)

Okay...go back and find the post, I never said I smoked him...I said I beat him. I never said he couldn't see my tail lights. Hell, I could still see him in my rear-view mirror.
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Re: What about MPG? [louiswei] by allmet33
Feb 07, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 07, 2008 9:04 am)

for your info, I took the liberty of going back to look at our previous discussion of my Azera beating a TL. I did not used the term "smoked" to describe what happened...I said I "outran" the TL. To clarify...anytime you are in front of someone else in a race...you are "outrunning" them.
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Re: What about MPG? [allmet33] by louiswei
Feb 07, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 07, 2008 10:33 am)

I did too, you are right that you never said you "smoked" the TL but your tone sure as heck sounded like you did.
 
 
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Re: What about MPG? [louiswei] by allmet33
Feb 07, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 07, 2008 10:37 am)

I figured that's what took you so long to respond! LOL I don't know how you picked that out of my tone when I never said I flat out left the TL behind or anything like that. One thing you'll realize about me...I'm going to tell you like it is. It serves me no purpose to hype something up that isn't...if it really wasn't.
 
This event happening within the first few weeks of ownership of my Azera, just really impressed me. I mean...in MY mind...the TL is a good running car and I figured it to have some get up and go. So...wanting to see what my Azera could do...I went for it. Even the TL driver pulled up next to me when we finally did come to a light and mirrored my sentiments by telling me he was impressed too.
 
That's it...nothing more. I might have explained it differently if I had set out to race and beat a TL or something like that, but nah...it was just something that happned...right time and place, that's all.
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from the discussions on this forum...... by alexstore
Feb 07, 2008 (11:23 am)
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From the discussions on this forum eventually we will need to rename it to Hyundai vs World forum
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Re: What about MPG? [allmet33] by captain2
Feb 07, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 07, 2008 7:03 am)

it's worse than just that - the Fusion is not available with any kind stability/traction control so therefore is more 'fun' to drive on certain 'tracks' than things like softly sprung Camry XLEs and/or Accord LXs that did, of course, have the SC.
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Re: What about MPG? [captain2] by allmet33
Feb 07, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 07, 2008 11:26 am)

AWD w/no TCS or ESC??? You silly guy, the Fusion AWS has TCS!!!
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Re: from the discussions on this forum...... [alexstore] by allmet33
Feb 07, 2008 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Sep 17, 2007 8:13 am)

At least until the nay sayers finally accept the fact that Hyundai is a viable option in it's respective segments.
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Re: What about MPG? [allmet33] by captain2
Feb 07, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 07, 2008 7:26 am)

Actually...you take away the 50 lbs the Azera has on the Max or the 19 lbs it has over the Avalon and give it the same hp

there you go dreaming again- what about the extra displacement the Hyundai engine needs to put out LESS HP. So lets reduce the Hyundai engine to 3.5 liters and then see if Hyundai can get the same sort of hp. Oops, if they could do that then they might actually have an engine as efficient as the 2GR - wouldn't they?
 
And yes the Avalon will be worth more because it does indeed cost more - BUT, as long as you get it back at trade-in time it didn't cost more at all - certainly not a 'moot' point. It's the only thinh that matters.
Percentages of value mean nothing BTW, it is obviously total dollars out of pocket that we should all be concerned with - if you want to buy a car that holds its value real well on a percentage basis buy a BMW and then you'll understand.
You Hyundai freaks seem to focus on how cheap Hyundai HAS TO sell its cars but then conveniently forget how cheap they remain 4 or 5 years down the road.

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