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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 06, 2008 8:32 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 06, 2008 12:14 pm) $3000.00 BTW may be a little low because things like 2 year old Avalons can be worth $4000.00 more than the equivalent Azera (run the numbers on kbb if you don't believe it) - so then the FE bonus is really money saved , isn't it? LOL
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 06, 2008 9:04 am) I did and I was, and never in any of my hundreds of posts have I ever said otherwise - it is simply not a Avalon (or a Maxima) engine wise. Not to be discouraged though, because that is awfully tall timber. The Azera Limited I did drive was extraordinarily 'soft' - thought I was in an old-fashioned Buick. Keep in mind I'm comparing to my 'Touring' Avalon because I would also tell you that the XLS/Ltd trims of the Avalon are also too soft for my tastes. FE and actual cost of ownership (like most folks I tend to keep a car 4-5 years) are also things that would keep me from buying one.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Feb 06, 2008 10:11 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 06, 2008 3:59 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 07, 2008 6:24 am) Actually...no it isn't...the larger that gap, the longer it would take to make up that difference in FE. However, looking at numbers on Edmunds...they have the Avalon & Azera listed with the same FE. Wow...imagine that, guess that would equate to NO advantage in the FE department. So, to answer your question...the money saved is on the side of the Azera. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 07, 2008 6:44 am) At any rate, you made a comment about starting a car up and not hearing the engine running is one sign of refinement (in so many words it was part of what you were saying). If you had driven an Azera, you would have found that to be true of the Hyundai 3.8. It is no louder than either the Avalon's or Max's engine!!! The softness of the Azera suspension is about the only knock when comparing it to the Avalon and the Max. Even the Motor Trend comparo said the same thing and it really didn't hold it against the Azera, just basically said it was better suited for highway cruising. If you're thinking in terms of resale value, I've already shown that to be a moot point. The Avalon will be worth more because it costs more to begin with. Now if you look at it from a percentage aspect, it's much, much closer than you think. I mean...look at what you paid for the Avalon and say 2 years down the road, figure how much it's worth...what's the percentage of difference? If you did the same thing with the Azera (for the sake of the arguement, say both cars have identical mileage on them and are in the same condition)...figure the percentage of difference between it's value new and what it's worth after 2 years...I guarantee you...you'll be surprised!
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