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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Check out these numbers... [wolverinejoe80] by tinydog1
Jul 27, 2006 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: wolverinejoe80 (Jul 27, 2006 7:14 pm)

I test drove the Avalon and Azera when lookin for a new car. The Azera won hands down. The Avalon exhibited a hesitation on acceleration, was noisier, and the trans did not shift smoothly. The Azera is so fluid, super smooth engine and trans, smooth throttle response, quiet, excellent ride, and fit and finish is flawless. No regrets here, no problems, has performed flawlessly. Purchased the Limited w/ Ultimate package for thousands less than an Avalon Limited. I loved the Azera so much, I went out and purchased an 06 Sonata LX, also an awsome car.
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Where are the American sedan fans? by luvmbooty
Jul 27, 2006 (10:00 pm)
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Only Buick fans here? How about Impala and Charger? To tell the truth, I personally like all the sedans in this forum but the Amanti. I don't find the design appealing at all. As for the 300, I know only the 2.7L fits in this forum and I don't think it has a lot of fans. Unless someone proves me wrong.
 
Captain2 and Buzz123, what are your favorite American made and why? Question open to all.
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Just got latest Consumer Reports mag by luvmbooty
Jul 27, 2006 (10:06 pm)
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There is an article that compares the Honda Accord V6, Toyota Camry, Hyundai Azera, and Buick Lucerne because all are in the same price range.
 
Can anyone guess how the order turned out? Like if it's anything new.
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Re: Buick or Toyota? [usfarbuo] by pat HOST
Jul 28, 2006 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: usfarbuo (Jul 27, 2006 3:16 pm)

This discussion is about all of the vehicles listed at the top of the page.
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Re: #1 Choice Based on #s and more [averigejoe] by pat HOST
Jul 28, 2006 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: averigejoe (Jul 27, 2006 5:22 pm)

averigejoe, you need to email me immediately.
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Re: Have any of you Lucerne Bashers actually really given one a chance? [imidazol97] by tjc78
Jul 28, 2006 (3:08 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 27, 2006 6:17 pm)

"Isn't the Avalon built on the Camry chassis?"
 
No the 05, 06 Avalon was a complete redesign. The earlier Avalons were on a stretched Camry frame.
 
You cannot compare the 3800 V6 to the Avalon V6 not even close. It is a good engine, can't knock that. But coming in at only 197 HP and still getting less MPG than the competitors puts the car at a disadvantage.
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Re: Have any of you Lucerne Bashers actually really given one a chance? [tjc78] by imidazol97
Jul 28, 2006 (3:27 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 28, 2006 3:08 am)

>06 Avalon was a complete redesign. New engine, trans, and chassis. The earlier Avalons were on a stretched Camry frame.
 
"Redesigned from the ground up, the Avalon now rides on a stretched version of the current Camry platform."
 
Anything that starts with something else and 'stretches' it is not a redesigned from ground up. It's based on the Camry platform which has been stretched.
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Re: Have any of you Lucerne Bashers actually really given one a chance? [imidazol97] by oilcan2
Jul 28, 2006 (3:45 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 27, 2006 6:17 pm)

Avalon is built on a bigger chassis and the 3800 engine is
197 hp compared to 268 and is rated at 28 hyw mpg.All else
being equal I would chose the AV with better mileage and alot more power.I did test drive a Lucerne and what I did'nt
like was the 1960's 6 by 9 rear speakers compared to the
Avalons powered subwoofer,its a small point but this was the
upgraded radio on the Lucerne and the Avalon sounded much
better.
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Re: Have any of you Lucerne Bashers actually really given one a chance? [imidazol97] by tjc78
Jul 28, 2006 (3:57 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 28, 2006 3:27 am)

"The Avalon is the first Toyota that is not only styled and built in the United States but is also completely engineered here. The all-new platform and 3.5-liter, 280-hp V-6 were designed in our backyard in Ann Arbor, Michigan, at the Toyota Technical Center, and they'll make their way into many future Toyota and Lexus vehicles."
 
This was taken from a popular auto magazine's website. The 05 Avalon was a new design. Yes, now it shares its platform with the Camry as it always did. My point is that it is new, not recycled.
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Re: Have any of you Lucerne Bashers actually really given one a chance? [tjc78] by imidazol97
Jul 28, 2006 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 28, 2006 3:57 am)

Shares platform. My point exactly. My source is Edmunds....
 
It's the Camry chassis stretched. Says it right there without the spin.
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=105147/pageNumber=5
 
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