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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#4701 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [captain2]
Jan 17, 2008 (3:35 am)
A more effective approach seems to be in what Acura is doing with the 286hp TL-S - electronically limiting throttle engagement when the front wheels are turned or Toyota's approach thru transmission gear selection.
In typical GM fashion ( fix it, but make it cheap ), the torque steer on the V8 powered Pontiac Grand Prix was reduced by gearing it taller than the similar Chevy Impala - how's about 100MPH in 2nd gear?
#4702 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [captain2]
Jan 17, 2008 (4:50 am)
"It may come down to that RWD Maxima poaching sales from those higher profit Infinitis -"
You may be right on that. A loaded up RWD Max would certainly hurt the "G". You would be getting many similar features, power, etc, but in a much larger package. Might not be what everyone wants, but, for some exactly what the doctor ordered.
#4703 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [cobrazera]
Jan 17, 2008 (6:59 am)
and like the top gear in the 3.8s for years - such things also meant to maximize FE often at the expense of drivabililty? What you talk about holding perhaps higher than necessary gears at lower speeds best summarizes Toyota's approach as well which eventually creates a problems with delays in multiple gear downshifts on reapplying throttle Something that is getting common as these mfgr. chase those coveted mpgs and Toyota is taking a fall (of sorts) for. I think in the GP V8 they also monkeyed around with increasing tire and wheel sizing for the fronts as well - it supposedly works to some extent but as you say a cheap 'fix' - you can't ultimately change the laws of physics.
#4704 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [tjc78]
Jan 17, 2008 (7:13 am)
Not Just G, but it will hurt M35 which is basically RWD/AWD Maxima with Luxury Badge
#4705 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [alexstore]
Jan 17, 2008 (8:18 am)
As far as I know the current Maxima and the M share nothing but the VQ engine. Completely different cars. Now, if the Max does go RWD that would be a different story as I would think Nissan would steal the underpinning from the M (which is really just a stretched G right?)
#4706 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [tjc78]
Jan 17, 2008 (10:33 am)
completely different cars certainly, but the M uses a stretched/shrunk and otherwise modified 'FM' platform just like most of the other Nissan products - the AWD/RWD G, FWD Altima, current FWD Maxima, FWD/AWD Murano/FX etc as well as even the RWD 350Z - and as would (I assume) a RWD/AWD? Maxima. Nissan has been a champion of platform (and engine) sharing for a number of years now (the 02 Altima) and largely because of this is supposed to have one of the 'most profitable' product lines of all. All mfgrs. do this to some degree - it's just that some are better at it than others. I would guess that even Toyota/Honda might be a little jealous of the Nissan product line, it turned an entire company around that was in some financial difficulty not that long ago. Chrysler/Ford/GM could learn something .....
#4707 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [tjc78]
Jan 17, 2008 (10:38 am)
btw also stock Tires are same
#4708 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [alexstore]
Jan 18, 2008 (6:31 pm)
I stand corrected then!
#4709 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [captain2]
Jan 18, 2008 (6:34 pm)
"but the M uses a stretched/shrunk and otherwise modified 'FM' platform just like most of the other Nissan products "
Didn't know that, I thoguht the RWD and FWD were two different platforms. And I thought Yota was good at making the same car 12 ways!
#4710 of 6854 Re: 2009 Maxima [tjc78]
Jan 19, 2008 (6:50 am)
it saves them ton of $$ to use same platform on many vehicles. so if Maxima offers rwd or AWD it will simply steal sales from M unless they use 3.5 in max and 3.7 in M and rate Max 280-295 hp and M 315-325.