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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#4106 of 6854 Re: What if? [xtec] by louiswei

Dec 12, 2007 (3:34 pm)

Replying to: xtec (Dec 12, 2007 3:11 pm)
Here you go: What actually sells: Fleet sales for first half of 2007
 
Here are the numbers for full size sedans:
 
Buick Lucerne 13.1% (mostly rental)
Chevy Impala 53.9% (mostly rental and commercial)
Chrysler 300 44.0% (mostly rental)
Dodge Charger 56.2% (mostly rental)
Ford Five Hundred 43.1% (mostly commercial)
Hyundai Azera 22.7% (mostly rental)
Nissan Maxima 15.9% (mostly rental)
Toyota Avalon 15.3% (mostly rental)
 
So yeah, Charger is the rental queen of the bunch.
 
Also, just so you know that most rental cars now don't have the rental tags or stickers on them anymore, at least that was the case for Hertz and Dollar. Much to my surprise, my last 2 rental cars from Enterprise (Magnum and Expedition) came without the little green "e" stickers on them.

#4107 of 6854 Re: What if? [louiswei] by xtec

Dec 12, 2007 (3:45 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (Dec 12, 2007 3:34 pm)
yea and with the fleet sales still blows away the Azera in sales.Thanks for the link.But it shows alot less the what allpar said and they get their onfo from Chrysler.In AZ they have a FLT on the tag which means fleet.I haven't seen one Charger yet that had that.I'm not saying they aren't there,but not the ones I see.Plus it shows which car is popular,and what people want,and can hold up to the abuse.Plus a sale is a sale,I don't think Chrysler cared who bought them just move the Inventory thats whats its about,something Hyundai has trouble doing.

#4108 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [allmet33] by thegraduate

Dec 12, 2007 (4:28 pm)

Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 12, 2007 2:29 pm)
Louiswei...obviously you haven't been following the thread, the so called "bangle" butt look was actually seen before BMW & Hyundai on the Volvo...go check a pic of a late 90's S-80 sedan and you'll see.
 
How about my '96 Accord, then?
 

#4109 of 6854 Re: What if? [xtec] by thegraduate

Dec 12, 2007 (4:33 pm)

Replying to: xtec (Dec 12, 2007 3:45 pm)
Plus it shows which car is popular,and what people want,and can hold up to the abuse
 
Oh, yeah. Run a car for 2 years and 40,000 miles. THAT'S a good measure of reliability.
 
Plus a sale is a sale,I don't think Chrysler cared who bought them just move the Inventory thats whats its about,something Hyundai has trouble doing.
 
Fleet sales are usually made in bulk. Bulk sales typically have discounts. Big discounts on more than half of the total number of models will definitely hurt resale value.

#4110 of 6854 Re: What if? [xtec] by louiswei

Dec 12, 2007 (4:43 pm)

Replying to: xtec (Dec 12, 2007 3:45 pm)
Plus a sale is a sale,I don't think Chrysler cared who bought them just move the Inventory thats whats its about
 
Just so you know that no, and in no i mean nada, zero, zip auto manufactors with sane people running it would prefer fleet sales over retail sales.
 
That's a fact.

#4111 of 6854 Re: What if? [xtec] by dborth

Dec 12, 2007 (5:51 pm)

Replying to: xtec (Dec 12, 2007 3:45 pm)
Re 4107: I don't think Chrysler cared who bought them just move the Inventory thats whats its about,
 
That, would include you, which you will feel at some point in the future.

#4112 of 6854 Re: What if? [dborth] by xtec

Dec 12, 2007 (5:59 pm)

Replying to: dborth (Dec 12, 2007 5:51 pm)
It still beats the Azera in sales,plus this was comparison between the Azera and Avalon ,we already went through about a month of comparison between the Charger and Azera,and I dont think we need to go there.Plus I heard that the 08 Azera are still not on lots.My local dealer ads the 08 Sonata,but still trying to get rid of 07 Azera's.Its still about the sales thats what counts and Hyundai cant sell.That seems to be what Im reading,you just don't like facts.In my opinion the Azera is probobly the less selling car on this board.If and when the Genesis comes out,then Ill say Hyundai has a great car.The Azera is far from great in my opinion.If you people trade in your Azera for the Genesis,then I would say we have a good board here with great cars,till that happens it will be like this.Plus most of the people who are on here don't own the cars on here yet sound and defend them as if they own one.How can you compare something you don't own?Thats the one question nobody can answer.

#4113 of 6854 Re: What if? [xtec] by pat

Dec 12, 2007 (6:09 pm)

Replying to: xtec (Dec 12, 2007 5:59 pm)
If people can't compare cars they don't own, then I guess you can't comment on any vehicle but the Charger? Come on, xtec.
 
You've been asked many times to drop that line - please do it.
 

#4114 of 6854 donl by donl1

Dec 12, 2007 (8:35 pm)

Is anyone else tired of this pissing match?

#4115 of 6854 Re: Is anyone else tired of this pissing match? by tonycd

Dec 12, 2007 (9:31 pm)

Replying to: donl1 (Dec 12, 2007 8:35 pm)
Yes, and there's one stream in particular I'd especially like to Dodge.

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