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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#4062 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [allmet33] by captain2

Dec 11, 2007 (11:47 am)

Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 11, 2007 11:36 am)
However, the concept Maxima that's puported to be upcoming....looks like a sleek Avalon.
Lets hope so, something to differentiate it from the really sharp new Altima (IMO) - one of the problems that Nissan has created for itself since the 2002 Altima 3.5. Not that many years ago, when 'full size' meant something smaller, the Altima was only available with a 4 banger, and the '4DSC' Maxima was something truly unique - and fun.

#4063 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [louiswei] by allmet33

Dec 11, 2007 (11:56 am)

Replying to: louiswei (Dec 11, 2007 11:41 am)
Ummmmmmmmmmm...okay, but VVT is a technology and it really doesn't relate to design cues, which is what this was all about to begin with.
 
Like I said in an earlier post, splitting hairs...the American way.
 
Look here man, currently...it is not a unique BMW attribute. As I stated, at the time the Azera was dropped, it was still pretty much considered a BMW trait. We are now a few years removed from that, and yes...many cars sport some variation of that design element, but none make it look as good as BMW has. Yes Benz was quick to jump on it (Maybach...of course, it's a Benz...but of course you knew that already too, huh?)
 
So...with so many cars sharing that design cue, how you can you even jump out there and try to say that the Azera is unique in design? I guess if you were truly technically competent...you would have realized that faux pas. You can't make a statement about a car being unique in design and yet...it shares design elements with many other cars that are on the road as well.
 
You're right, I'm sorry oh great and powerful Oz. I actually made a mistake myself. The "bangle" butt look actually goes back to the Volvo S80...I'm sure someone may even find it on something else. However, when BMW redesigned the 7-Series...they made it one sexy car, and that really amplified that look.

#4064 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [captain2] by allmet33

Dec 11, 2007 (11:58 am)

Replying to: captain2 (Dec 11, 2007 11:47 am)
RIGHT!!!! That new Altima coupe....is a sharp little car.

#4065 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [allmet33] by louiswei

Dec 11, 2007 (12:05 pm)

Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 11, 2007 11:56 am)
Like I said in an earlier post, splitting hairs...the American way.
 
I am not trying to split hairs but simply make a statement that says: The Bangle butt design was originated by BMW but since it is widely adapted by the industry so it is not unique to BMW anymore.
 
I failed to see what's wrong with that statement.
 
I would also argue about that nobody makes it as good as BMW. IMO BMW's "original" Bangle butt on the 7-series was probably the ugliest of them all. At that time I was a firm hater of this design cue but after saw the MB version on the S-class I found myself quickly warm up to it. Different stroke for different folks I guess.
 
As for Azera, I still failed to see it resembles any other cars whether it is design cue, lines or the overall design scheme.

#4066 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [louiswei] by captain2

Dec 11, 2007 (12:07 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (Dec 11, 2007 11:41 am)
my Avalon is mistaken for a 7 series - all the time - as long as that person has got the proper view - from behind.

#4067 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [louiswei] by alexstore

Dec 11, 2007 (12:13 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (Dec 11, 2007 12:05 pm)
Azera design has a look of 1990's acura coupe

#4068 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [alexstore] by thegraduate

Dec 11, 2007 (12:16 pm)

Replying to: alexstore (Dec 11, 2007 12:13 pm)
Azera design has a look of 1990's acura coupe
 
Riiiiight. ?
 

 

#4069 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [thegraduate] by louiswei

Dec 11, 2007 (12:26 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 11, 2007 12:16 pm)
Hmm...
 
Nope, still not getting it.

#4070 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [alexstore] by allmet33

Dec 11, 2007 (12:35 pm)

Replying to: alexstore (Dec 11, 2007 12:13 pm)
Alexstore...please stop, seriously!!!

#4071 of 6854 Re: Genesis spotted in motion [louiswei] by allmet33

Dec 11, 2007 (12:40 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (Dec 11, 2007 12:05 pm)
Ahhhh, but you are splitting hairs. You took my statement out of context. However, in doing so...you blew your theory out of the water.
 
What did you expect BMW to get it right on the first try? Maybe they didn't, but they sure perfected it. Just admit you're not a BMW person and that'll settle that. SHEESH!!!
 
You may be techincally competent, but obviously blind. You choose NOT to see the similarities the Azera has with other cars. Like I said before, you're the rare ONE that can say the Azera is a totally unique design by Hyundai! *snicker*

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