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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#41 of 6844 Buick or Toyota? by usfarbuo Jul 27, 2006 (3:16 pm)
Is this a Buick or Toyopta forum. I "hit" Azera on my computer but all I see are remarks about the buick or avalon. Replies to this message: buzz123 (Jul 27, 2006 3:54 pm) pat (Jul 28, 2006 2:27 am) himi1 (Jan 08, 2008 3:33 am) allmet33 (Jan 08, 2008 6:07 am) captain2 (Jan 08, 2008 10:22 am) and 2 more...
#42 of 6844 Re: Large Sedans for Under $30,000 Comparision [luvmbooty] by killerbunny Jul 27, 2006 (3:36 pm)
Replying to: luvmbooty (Jul 26, 2006 9:30 am) I also think that Toyota is being a little greedy not to give rebates or incentives for a soon to be one year old model. One reason why the Azera will give it a run for its money.   Don't think so.   There is no greedy car company, as there is no generous car company. Everything is dictated by demand and supply. If Toyota offer more incentive than needed, there will be a huge line up waiting for Avalon deliveries. And then some customers are not pleased by the 6 month wait.
#43 of 6844 Re: Buick or Toyota? [usfarbuo] by buzz123 Jul 27, 2006 (3:54 pm)
Replying to: usfarbuo (Jul 27, 2006 3:16 pm) I think the forum is supposed to be anything that falls into the large sedan category and is less than $30K. You're right, so far, it seems like most of the contributors have been Avalon owners followed by Buick owners. However, I think comments about any of the vehicles that fall into this category, including the Azera that you mentioned, are welcome. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before more owners of other vehicles start contributing as well. Feel free to make any comments you have about the Azera or any other vehciles in this category that you're intrested in.
#44 of 6844 Re: Just wondering [loyalbuickfan] by buzz123 Jul 27, 2006 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: loyalbuickfan (Jul 27, 2006 10:35 am) I think that's a great way to look at it! You're right when you said "Each owner seems to understandably defend their personal choice as the best car." I like your list of preferences especially the cloth seats. I prefer cloth seats as well.
#45 of 6844 #1 Choice Based on #s and more [luvmbooty] by averigejoe Jul 27, 2006 (5:22 pm)
Replying to: luvmbooty (Jul 25, 2006 8:12 am) Seems to me there is a clear winner here. Look at the power, equipment, price, warranty and dimensions.   Verdict: HYUNDAI AZERA   Tell me where I am wrong. Replies to this message: pat (Jul 28, 2006 2:27 am)
#46 of 6844 Azera by hardhawk Jul 27, 2006 (6:01 pm)
I went to the Chicago Auto Show in Feb. and the one car that impressed me the most was the Azera. I am 6'4" and can sit in the driver's seat and get out and sit in the back driver's side seat comfortably. The Avalon is nice, but my head hits the roof in the back seat and the styling is bland. The Buick everyone is bashing was nice, but unremarkable styling turned me off. I loved the look of my 1992 Park Ave. Ultra. That was a sharp vehicle and was very relaible for the 6 years I owned it. I will certainly look at the Azera when new car time comes as in terms of car for the $$$ no one else can compare. Right now with kids and stuff to carry, I love my Dodge Magnum RT. There is no other sport wagon than can even come close in value and performance for the $$$. But, I am prejudiced towards what I picked.
#47 of 6844 Not to start a war by imidazol97 Jul 27, 2006 (6:06 pm)
I'm going to do what Pat suggested in another Mix discussion: tell what I like and would like different.   I like that the Lucerne replaces a range from LeSabre Custom to Park Avenue Supercharged with one car. So the Lucerne is really a dichotomy (trichotomy) or cars. I like the idea of cloth seats and smooooooth 3800 motor for those of us who don't like to drag race with high revs 99% of the time. I like the smooth but well-controlled ride; it's not your father's Buick ride anymore. Even our 03 is taut.   I'd like to see the standard bench seat available on each model and with cloth seats; I don't want to have to buy a console in the middle of the front seat to get cloth seats again like my older Buick has. I hate the leather. I'd also like to see the Lucerne marketed as 3 different cars so that the CR and competition couldn't stereotype one model as the character of the other two; i.e., 3800 base softer ride vs Northstar wheel-scrubbing V8 with computer controlled ride struts-one of the best rides, I've read.
#48 of 6844 Re: Have any of you Lucerne Bashers actually really given one a chance? [tjc78] by imidazol97 Jul 27, 2006 (6:17 pm)
Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 27, 2006 11:35 am) >Not to start a war here, but the Buick is not a new car.   Isn't the Avalon built on the Camry chassis? The 17/25 is for the powerful Northstar. The 3800 v6 is higher and it will deliver the mileage. See my earlier post as to the varied characteristics of the car.   The 4-speed auto works great, especially when you have a motor with torque, which both do. There is no hesitation problem with the trans/motor combo. Replies to this message: tjc78 (Jul 28, 2006 3:08 am) imidazol97 (Jul 28, 2006 3:27 am) tjc78 (Jul 28, 2006 3:57 am) and 11 more... oilcan2 (Jul 28, 2006 3:45 am) imidazol97 (Jul 28, 2006 5:10 am) tjc78 (Jul 28, 2006 5:39 am) and 1 more...
#49 of 6844 Re: Check out these numbers... [luvmbooty] by wolverinejoe80 Jul 27, 2006 (7:14 pm)
Replying to: luvmbooty (Jul 25, 2006 8:12 am) man, azera looks clear winner to me. i love avalon and maxima, but they are so expensive. Replies to this message: tinydog1 (Jul 27, 2006 8:25 pm)
#50 of 6844 Re: Have any of you Lucerne Bashers actually really given one a chance? [tjc78] by janeandwaldo Jul 27, 2006 (7:17 pm)
Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 27, 2006 11:35 am) Hey that's OK TJC you got your opinions I just wanted to point it out ot you. I really don't see where there could be any car much quieter or smoother than my Lucerne but I haven't ridden in an Avalon so I won't knock you. I refuse to buy a Japanese car just because I will not put an American out of work. EVen though I know Toyota probably has Assembly plants here in the US I still refuse to do it. Especially after losing my job back in 2002 to Indian IT Consultants. To boot I had to train them too so they could take my job. That was the worst training the guy to take your job. Good luck with your Avalon I hope you don't have the problems others have reported!!

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