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Replying to: stevenw (Jul 24, 2006 7:26 am)  5600 rpms and 323 lbs.-ft. of torque 4400 rpms for under $30,000. How about a Dodge Caliber RT(not fully loaded) that has 340 Hp 5000 rpms and 390 lbs.-ft of torque 4000 rpms. Not included in this comparison but a Pontiac Grand Prix GXP V8 fully loaded w/out Navigation that has same Hp and torque as Impala for under $30,000. Right now there is a $1,000 manufacturer to Dealer incentive for a 2006 Buick Lucerne CXL V8 that has 275 Hp 6000 rpms and 295 lbs.-ft. of torque 4400 rpms for under $30,000 (also not fully loaded). Your best bet with these cars would probably be the Dodge. It also has the best styling of the 4 above. My point is you could get a V8 for under $30,000, though it sounds like your more used to more upscale sedans. One of the reasons I started this forum was to see how one could buy a near luxury car at a reasonable price. For example, you could spend equal amounts for a V6 Camry or Accord as the 4 cars mentioned above. They probably aren't as refined as the Camry or Accord but definitely more spacious and more comfortable.
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Although I don't consider a Caliber to be a "large sedan". Maybe a Magnum would be more fitting in this comparison. I think a base Magnum is under $30K as well.
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Replying to: luvmbooty (Jul 22, 2006 7:44 pm) 6200 RPM and 248 ft-lbs 4700 RPM. All this with a mileage rating of 22 City/31 Highway. In fact, I just returned from a 357 mile trip visiting the in-laws and I actually got even better than that. I got 31.9 MPG and that was driving mostly 70 MPH. Of course you can't get a fully loaded Avalon for under $30K, but you can, and I did, get one that has a lot of great features for less than $30K including the reclining rear seats (great for passengers on long trips) and dual zone automatic climate system (so the wife can set the temp to what she wants and I can set the temp to what I want). Also, as someone else pointed out already, "The Avalon and the Impala also received acceptable crash scores by IIHS." All this made the Avalon the vehicle for me!
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Replying to: buzz123 (Jul 24, 2006 1:47 pm)
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Replying to: luvmbooty (Jul 24, 2006 5:49 pm)
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Replying to: buzz123 (Jul 25, 2006 3:12 am) I think the 3rd row is better than Highlander because 3rd row is 50/50 folding and the bay of where the seat folds in to gives you more room for luggage. There really isn't a whole lot but the Highlander's luggage space is nonexistent when seat is up. We payed $25,400 for it. I recently went to msn.com and saw Consumer Reports has rated it finally. It's the top rated small SUV now beating the previous winner, the Subaru Forester scored 71, RAV4 4cyl scored 77, V6 scored 83. I wouldn't rule out the Forester because of IIHS.org crash test perfect rating. Back seat is a little cramped but plenty of luggage space. The RAV4s rear seat adjusts forward or back which helps 3rd row leg room.
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Can you really get a Nissan Maxima for under $30K? If so, I think that it would be very viable for my purposes (rarely more than 4 people in the car). I thought that they went for $33K-$35K, more like an Acura TL. Plus it seems more like a 4 door sports sedan, not in the category of the Toyota Avalon or Chevy Malibu or Chrysler 300.
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Replying to: lweiss (Jul 25, 2006 6:28 am) |
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2006 Chrysler 300 2.7L base/103 cu ft interior/24 cu ft luggage/MPG 21c, 28h/190 hp6400 rpm/Invoice $22,238-$24,858/IIHS.org G,M,A 2006 Dodge Charger 3.5L SE/103 cu ft interior/24 cu ft luggage/MPG 19c, 27h/250 hp 6400 rpm/Invoice $20,983-$29,330/IIHS.org G,M,- 2007 Nissan Maxima 3.5L SE/104 cu ft interior/16 cu ft luggage/MPG 21c, 28h (premium gas)/255 hp 6000 rpm/Invoice $25,648-$34,831/IIHS.org G,M,P 2006 Kia Amanti 3.8L base/105 cu ft interior/15 cu ft luggage/200 hp 5500 rpm/Invoice $25,510-$27,505/IIHS.org G,-,A 2007 Chevy Impala 3.5L LS/105 cu ft interior/19 cu ft luggage/MPG 20c, 29h/211 hp 5800 rpm/Invoice $19,618-$20,968/IIHS.org A,G,P 2006 Toyota Avalon 3.5L XL/107 cu ft interior/14 cu ft luggage/MPG 22c, 31h/268 hp 6200 rpm/Invoice $$23,921-$27,880/IIHS.org G,G,P 2007 Hyundai Azera 3.8L SE/107 cu ft interior/17 cu ft luggage/MPG 19c, 28h/263 hp 6000 rpm/Invoice $21,901-$24,424/IIHS.org G,A,A 2007 Buick Lucerne 3.8L CX/108 cu ft interior/17 cu ft luggage/MPG 19c, 28h/197 hp 5200 rpm/Invoice $24,041-$28,512/IIHS.org G,A,P 2007 Ford Five Hundred 3.0L SEL/108 cu ft interior/21 cu ft luggage/MPG 21c, 29h/203 hp 5750 rpm/Invoice $20,966-$26,340/IIHS.org G,G,G Right now for 2006 Maxima has a rebate of $1,500, 2006 Amanti rebate $3,000, 2006 Impala rebate $2,000, 2006 Azera rebate $1,000, 2006 Lucerne rebate $1,500 and Incentive $1,000, 2006 Five Hundred REBATE $1,000. Invoice prices listed above refers to the lowest trim only. Probably possible to get higher trims under $30,000 but not if it's fully loaded and how good of a negotiator you are. Note that EPA city mileage isn't accurate but can be used as a guide. Also The only large sedan listed with a fully loaded invoice above $30,000 is the Nissan Maxima SE. All IIHS.org test scores are with side curtain airbags. |
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Replying to: stevenw (Jul 24, 2006 1:10 pm) |
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