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Replying to: xtec (Nov 21, 2007 9:55 am) I do like the looks of the 300, but in my opinion, the only good looking vehicle that Dodge markets is the Viper.
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 22, 2007 3:01 am) One thing i like about charger is that it is RWD. Useless in the winter but fun in the summer. Although Chrysler group started 3.5 L revolution, 3.5 L that is in MB is much better and of a new type. This engine is not performance oriented in MB. Hyundai's 3.8 was either licensed, co-developed or stolen from Mitsubishi as it shares similar characteristics. Compared to Avalon or Maxima it is slightly inferior. It is modern but if Toyota had 3.8 in Avalon, it would have been about 290 HP and about 270 torque.
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Is the Taurus/Sable the only sedans in this group with the higher driver seat position? Someone said one sits somewhat higher in the Azera. My wife is short and likes the higher seating of our minivan, but we would like to go to a sedan for our next vehicle.
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 23, 2007 5:21 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 23, 2007 5:51 am) In your example, with 3.8L both Toyota and Nissan will have about 330+ in their high output versions. But now compare FE of GS vs Avalon and M35 vs Maxima. m35 rwd - 18/25 Maxima- 21/28 Avalon is hard to compare as it is longer then either GS or ES though I say LS is a luxury Avalon, but price wise I believe GS is closer choice. now if we talk about engines on this forum, I believe GM's 3.6, Nissan's VQ and Toyota's 2gre are the best here and the most flexible.
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Nov 23, 2007 5:44 am) |
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 23, 2007 5:21 am) What are you talking about? Licensed, co-developed, stolen? Keep dreaming. The 3.8 Lambda is developed/built in house. FYI, and as suspected, the 3.8 Lambda is capable of higher hp and increased fuel economy. And, as the second generation Lambda (both 3.3 and 3.8) debuts, it will make use of both categories. For the record, the upcoming RWD BK from Hyundai with the 3.8 house under the hood WILL have more than 300hp. The BH luxury RWD sedan will also use the 3.8 as its base engine (4.6L V8), and we'll hear more info soon. PS, some more engine knowledge for you, the "world engine" was developed by Hyundai, and my understanding Hyundai is getting loyalty payments. |
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 23, 2007 2:07 pm)  That setting him straight joe97.  I wonder if we will be able to simply upgrade our older 3.8 Lambdas to bring them up to being equal to the newer applications?  I can dream can't I? 
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 23, 2007 5:21 am) In a family sedan, though, IMO, FWD is the way to go. The Charger fun in summer? With 4200 pounds in the hemi version, that's no sports sedan - it's a very big and heavy 4 passenger car. The center rear position being nearly useless for an adult because of the driveshaft tunnel. |
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