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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by joe97
Nov 07, 2007 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 1:46 pm)

Glad to hear!! That's what's most important, really, at the end of the day.
 
The Azera and Charger appeal to two different crowd, one's FWD, and the other is RWD; both excels in certain areas and have shortcomings in other areas. Just trying to share my opinion on the other poster's narrow-minded comments, about being stuck with an Azera is enough of a reason to go with the Charger instead. (paraphrased)
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [joe97] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 07, 2007 1:56 pm)

You're absolutely right in what you're saying. Personally, even though I love my Azera, I also love the Charger R/T's and SRT-8's...those are a couple of nasty machines to be honest...espeically for what they can be bought for. Heck, I'm even waiting for that new Pontiac G8 to dropp so I can check it out. There are really a lot of cars out there I like. Personally, if the Lucerne had a stronger engine...I might have had one of those instead of my Azera. At least I can say I jumped in with both eyes open when I made my decision.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [louiswei] by jaymagic
Nov 07, 2007 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 07, 2007 1:32 pm)

I love this inane discussion thread. Now as an Azera owner and fanatic, I must say that I could force myself to spend a day in a Charger SRT or similar Chrysler model. Now I wouldn't want to have to buy gas for the day, worry about tire replacement, or other real world issues, but I could live with the smell of burning rubber for a day -- if absolutely forced
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by captain2
Nov 07, 2007 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 12:58 pm)

you know a little birdy once told me that if you braked the accelerator to just the point that the engine is really getting it on that a few tenths of 0-60 or quarter time is relatively easily saved. The same birdy also told me that if you do this kind of thing often enough that you could look forward to picking up pieces of your Tranny off the pavement.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by louiswei
Nov 07, 2007 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 2:04 pm)

The G8 will be an amazing machine whether it's V6 or V8, performance wise, since all the reviews indicate that this car is on par with the 5-series (again, performance wise). After seeing the photos I think the interior still looks bland and GMish to me. Maybe it's better than the current Pontiacs but that's really not saying much.
 
Charger on the other hand is worthless with V6 engine. The only way to enjoy it is with the Hemi V8 and that's if one can overlook that horribly designed interior.
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Completely loaded Pontiac G8 may will cost just $32,895 by louiswei
Nov 07, 2007 (2:44 pm)
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This is just amazing!! Pontiac finally will have a winner in its lineup.
 
Source: Autoblog
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [louiswei] by captain2
Nov 07, 2007 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 07, 2007 2:34 pm)

Charger on the other hand is worthless with V6 engine
sure about that? this would be the models that DON'T seem to have as many mechanical problems - can provide some semblance of reasonable FE -although a friend with a V6 300 was overjoyed with 23mpg highway. I didn't have the heart to tell him that my Avalon might have cracked 30mpg on the same trip and further would blow his doors off. The V6 offers almost competitive power, less refinement and is of course RWD - if I could only get over the sensation of driving a big bathtub and yes the interior is an egronomic nightmare!
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [captain2] by louiswei
Nov 07, 2007 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 07, 2007 3:04 pm)

Let's look at the Charger's 2 V6 engines:
 
2.7-Liter V6: 178 HP, 190 lb-ft
3.5-Liter V6: 250 HP, 250 lb-ft
 
I guess the 3.5L is okay but the 2.7L is just down right awful. IMO, with the type of car Charger is and given it's size and weight, any V6 under 300HP and V8 under 350HP is unacceptable. So yes, I think the Charger is worthless with V6 engines.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [joe97] by vic10
Nov 07, 2007 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 07, 2007 1:28 pm)

You are absolutely correct: I've never driven a Hyundai. I don't find them attractive vehicles (though more attractive than the new BMW's I have to say), and since I'm blessed to be able to say money is not particularly an issue, I choose bling to blah. Coming from a family who lost members in WWII, buying foreign was always a dirty thought...so I prefer to buy American. I don't drive a Charger either (though I did have a company Intrepid which was a surprisingly enjoyable car--certainly better than the Taurus it replaced). My 2005 300C, though, is great. It cost me less than $30K, has a Kelly Bluebook retail value of $24K (not bad after 3 years), and will give me 28 mpg on the highway if I keep it below the MDS cutoff of 75mph. (And I do chuckle on the usual comment about the bathtub feel. The previous Taurus had that feel too--bigger widows maybe but you sat deep in the car, and the Mustang has always been that way....).
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by alexstore
Nov 08, 2007 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 9:28 am)

same situation, but place Maxima and Avalon, they both have a v6 but smaller displacement and still they beat Azera 0-60

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