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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by captain2
Nov 07, 2007 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 9:28 am)

It's sad that it takes an American V-8 to contend with a Korean V-6.
Yep, 'Detroit' seemingly has some difficulty producing power competitive smaller engines - always have. However, I would suggest to you that the non AWD Taurus (0-60 6.8?) and perhaps even a 3.6 liter Lacrosse will run right up there next to your Azera all just a smidge behind the Maxima and Avalon. Relatively 'quick' territory by almost any definition. The sad part of the American V8 story is that even though this is what Detroit is supposedly good at, both of those gas hog V8s in the 300 and Impala SS are suffering in the reliability dept.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [captain2] by thegraduate
Nov 07, 2007 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 07, 2007 12:20 pm)

I would suggest to you that the non AWD Taurus (0-60 6.8?)
 
Where'd that number come from?
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [captain2] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 07, 2007 12:20 pm)

I shouldn't have been so specific in saying Korean V-6, because it's across the board in that American V-8's are needed to contend with foreign V-6's. Heck...there's some import 4 bangers that'll run some American V-6's into the ground as well. How's that for grossly lacking!
 
You're absolutely correct. So imagine how lethargic the American V-6's must feel in comparison! LOL
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [thegraduate] by captain2
Nov 07, 2007 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 07, 2007 12:26 pm)

Car and Driver in their new cars issue (Sept.?) in a small review of a Taurus Limited FWD. Keep in mind though that CD seems to be some sort of champion when it comes to extracting the lowest 0-60s possible. The same magazine had the Avalon at 6.0, the Maxima at 6.1, and the Azera at 6.5 all numbers that I am sure that most of us could and would not duplicate. We 'like' our cars too much!
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [captain2] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 07, 2007 12:49 pm)

They probably ran the tests with as little gas in the tank as possible, no windshield washer fluid, removed the spare tire and floor mats (hey, trying to make it as light as possible) and made sure the test driver weighed less than 150 lbs.!!! LOL
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [vic10] by joe97
Nov 07, 2007 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: vic10 (Nov 07, 2007 11:21 am)

Oh, I don't know. I assume you drive a car with a dull gray paint job, painted steel wheels, rubber mats on the floor, cheap vinyl interior? Numbers are nice but there's got to be some kind of visual appeal in the selection process, sometimes to overwhelm a 1/2 second in performance or few hundred $$$ in price/value. There's a shop foreman at our facility who alternates driving his "yellow bee" Charger and his Harley. He would probably rather be seen peddling a tricyle to work than driving a Hyundai. But that was HIS appeal-choice. I'm always surprised at how defensive, and then offensive, Azera owners are when their car choice is criticized. No need to be embarrassed. That was YOUR choice.
 
In reply to my post:
 
"Worst logic. ever."
 
in reply to your post:
 
You left out the most important part: No matter what the difference in price or resale value, if you bought an Azera, at the end of the day you're stuck with...an Azera. That alone should be enough reason to buy the Charger, n'est-ce pas??
 
FYI, I don't drive an Azera (nor any Hyundai), I don't drive a Charger (nor any Dodge). I just pointed out how ignorant your comments were. Hyundai owners are getting penalized because they drive an Azera?? - "at the end of the day you're stuck with...an Azera."
 
Just by looking at the type of your posts, you probably have never driven a Hyundai, at least not one recently. There are reasons why Hyundai perform well when comes to owners satisfactions, customer loyalty and other similar categories.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [joe97] by louiswei
Nov 07, 2007 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 07, 2007 1:28 pm)

I'll take any Azera over any Charger any day of the week.
 
I had a Dodge Magnum for a weekend not long ago so I know how "at the end of the day you're stuck with...a Dodge" feels like.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [joe97] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 07, 2007 1:28 pm)

FYI, I don't drive an Azera (nor any Hyundai), I don't drive a Charger (nor any Dodge). I just pointed out how igorant your comments were. Hyundai owners are getting penalized because they drive an Azera?? - "at the end of the day you're stuck with...an Azera."
 
Are you making a statement, reiterating what was already said, asking a question or what???
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by joe97
Nov 07, 2007 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 1:35 pm)

Neither
 
Exercising on the expansion of my previous post.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [joe97] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 07, 2007 1:40 pm)

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...sure, okay. I don't mind being stuck with my Azera...that's for sure!

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