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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [cobrazera]
by allmet33
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Nov 07, 2007 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 3:02 am)
Once again, they two are NOT equally equipped as the R/T has a V-8 and the Azera has only a V-6. That is why I used the Charger SE w/SXT Package vs. Azera Limited w/Premium Package. The equipment list is pretty much dead even and there is only a couple thousand difference in the price. A much better comparison to use.
However, thank you for proving my point that the Charger and Azera are pretty much the same value. There are some that just refuse to believe that their precious American-made Charger can even be compared to the likes of a Korean-made product! LOL
Like I said before when I bought my '02 Sonata, the rest of the car makers need to keep an eye over their shoulder because Hyundai is creeping up on them.
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- #3550 of 6844
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33]
by alexstore
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Nov 07, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 5:50 am)
Toyota syndrome is now present in Hyundai. Recently visited HUyndai dealership in search for an SUV and had a chance to look at velacruz. Is this a top of the line Huyndai SUV? I have a better chance at buying used MUrano then this vehicle . Also looked once again at azera. Currently top of the line Azera without any options does not match even basic Avalon in its status.
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- #3551 of 6844
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [alexstore]
by allmet33
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Nov 07, 2007 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 07, 2007 7:04 am)
Alexstore...stop smoking that stuff. What in the world is Toyota Syndrome??? Did you actually test drive the V-E-R-A-C-R-U-Z? A Murano can't touch it! Besides, you're comparing a mid-size SUV (Murano) to a full-sized SUV (Veracruz). A better comparison would have been the Santa Fe vs. Murano.
Anyway...what exactly do you mean by "status"??? Are you aware that the Avalon isn't even the best vehicle that Toyota makes? The FJ Cruiser has taken that distinction as the Toyota vehicle with the least amount of problems.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [alexstore]
by dborth
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Nov 07, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 07, 2007 7:04 am)
re: 3550 Your post is a little confusing. 
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [dborth]
by allmet33
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Nov 07, 2007 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 7:14 am)
Personally, I think HE'S confused himself! 
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- #3554 of 6844
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33]
by cobrazera
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Nov 07, 2007 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 5:50 am)
As a " Car Nut " there's no way I could consider the Charger without the V-8 - that's it's best virtue. Besides, the V-6 Azera is closer in performance to the V-8 Charger than it is to the V-6.
The Azera 1/4 mile and 0-60 are each about 1/2 sec behind the V-8 Charger; in the stoplight Grand Prix, whoever leaves first will not be caught without going into illegal speeds.
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- #3555 of 6844
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [cobrazera]
by allmet33
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Nov 07, 2007 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 9:16 am)
I understand what you're saying and I agree, as you saw from my previous statement that unless you have the R/T (or SRT-8), the Charger (Magnum or 300) just isn't worth it.
It's sad that it takes an American V-8 to contend with a Korean V-6. However, from an equipment standpoint...the two are not equal. This discussion didn't start out intially as a performance issue, rather a value issue and to get a good comparison between them...you need to build them up the same, that means V-6 for V-6, even if they don't perform the same.
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GM's 3rd quarter $36 billion loss!
by dborth
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Nov 07, 2007 (10:56 am)
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Well, there goes the end of model year rebates.
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- #3557 of 6844
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Re: GM's 3rd quarter $36 billion loss! [dborth]
by allmet33
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Nov 07, 2007 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 10:56 am)
Nah...they'll still offer rebates, they'll just cut more jobs to make up the difference!
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [joe97]
by vic10
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Nov 07, 2007 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 06, 2007 6:08 pm)
Oh, I don't know. I assume you drive a car with a dull gray paint job, painted steel wheels, rubber mats on the floor, cheap vinyl interior? Numbers are nice but there's got to be some kind of visual appeal in the selection process, sometimes to overwhelm a 1/2 second in performance or few hundred $$$ in price/value. There's a shop foreman at our facility who alternates driving his "yellow bee" Charger and his Harley. He would probably rather be seen peddling a tricyle to work than driving a Hyundai. But that was HIS appeal-choice. I'm always surprised at how defensive, and then offensive, Azera owners are when their car choice is criticized. No need to be embarrassed. That was YOUR choice.
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