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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [vic10] by keitha3
Nov 06, 2007 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: vic10 (Nov 06, 2007 6:00 pm)

My answer to your question is a huge, "No!!!!!"
 
I've test driven both and much prefer the Azera, especially if they get their suspension problems cleaned up.
 
Honestly, the Charger had a nervous feel to its handling which I didn't like. But, each of us obviously can make our own decisions, right?
 
By the way, I wouldn't consider myself "stuck" with an Azera should I purchase one. I'd be proud of my decision to spend my money wisely.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by cobrazera
Nov 07, 2007 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 06, 2007 6:27 pm)

I did a comp on the Dodge Charger R/T and found that equally equipped as an Azera Limited w/Ultimate the Charger lists for about $34.2K, and found that a 2006 model with 30K miles ( excellent condition ) has a trade-in value of $20.6K: cost to own was $13.6K.
The Azera lists for $29.8K and had a used value of $16.3K: cost to own was $13.5K.
Looks like they cost about the same to own for 2 years.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [cobrazera] by cobrazera
Nov 07, 2007 (3:48 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 3:02 am)

Continueing my previous post, #3547, both the Charger and Azera can probably be bought at a $2500 discount pretty easily, so the cost would be about $11K for each.
I then compared these to an Avalon XLS ( closest in equipment ) and found a new price of about $32.2K and a trade-in value of $21.2K, cost to own: $11K.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [cobrazera] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 3:02 am)

Once again, they two are NOT equally equipped as the R/T has a V-8 and the Azera has only a V-6. That is why I used the Charger SE w/SXT Package vs. Azera Limited w/Premium Package. The equipment list is pretty much dead even and there is only a couple thousand difference in the price. A much better comparison to use.
 
However, thank you for proving my point that the Charger and Azera are pretty much the same value. There are some that just refuse to believe that their precious American-made Charger can even be compared to the likes of a Korean-made product! LOL
 
Like I said before when I bought my '02 Sonata, the rest of the car makers need to keep an eye over their shoulder because Hyundai is creeping up on them.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by alexstore
Nov 07, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 5:50 am)

Toyota syndrome is now present in Hyundai. Recently visited HUyndai dealership in search for an SUV and had a chance to look at velacruz. Is this a top of the line Huyndai SUV? I have a better chance at buying used MUrano then this vehicle . Also looked once again at azera. Currently top of the line Azera without any options does not match even basic Avalon in its status.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [alexstore] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 07, 2007 7:04 am)

Alexstore...stop smoking that stuff. What in the world is Toyota Syndrome??? Did you actually test drive the V-E-R-A-C-R-U-Z? A Murano can't touch it! Besides, you're comparing a mid-size SUV (Murano) to a full-sized SUV (Veracruz). A better comparison would have been the Santa Fe vs. Murano.
 
Anyway...what exactly do you mean by "status"??? Are you aware that the Avalon isn't even the best vehicle that Toyota makes? The FJ Cruiser has taken that distinction as the Toyota vehicle with the least amount of problems.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [alexstore] by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 07, 2007 7:04 am)

re: 3550 Your post is a little confusing.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [dborth] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 7:14 am)

Personally, I think HE'S confused himself!
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by cobrazera
Nov 07, 2007 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 5:50 am)

As a " Car Nut " there's no way I could consider the Charger without the V-8 - that's it's best virtue. Besides, the V-6 Azera is closer in performance to the V-8 Charger than it is to the V-6.
The Azera 1/4 mile and 0-60 are each about 1/2 sec behind the V-8 Charger; in the stoplight Grand Prix, whoever leaves first will not be caught without going into illegal speeds.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [cobrazera] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 9:16 am)

I understand what you're saying and I agree, as you saw from my previous statement that unless you have the R/T (or SRT-8), the Charger (Magnum or 300) just isn't worth it.
 
It's sad that it takes an American V-8 to contend with a Korean V-6. However, from an equipment standpoint...the two are not equal. This discussion didn't start out intially as a performance issue, rather a value issue and to get a good comparison between them...you need to build them up the same, that means V-6 for V-6, even if they don't perform the same.

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