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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [vic10] by joe97
Nov 06, 2007 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: vic10 (Nov 06, 2007 6:00 pm)

You left out the most important part: No matter what the difference in price or resale value, if you bought an Azera, at the end of the day you're stuck with...an Azera. That alone should be enough reason to buy the Charger, n'est-ce pas??
 
Worst logic. ever.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [xtec] by allmet33
Nov 06, 2007 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: xtec (Nov 06, 2007 3:17 pm)

Again, I don't know what options list you're looking at...unless you're trying to say you bought a bare-bones Charger SXT. The '06 Azera SE was the base model version until '07 when the GLS was introduced.
 
You've proven MY point as well. The Charger SE started around $20K and when you get done adding all the options to make it comparable to the Azera Limited w/premium package...it is closer to the price of that rather than the Azera SE. You just choose to go with the SE instead to TRY and validate your point.
 
Your SXT at $24,665 is much closer to my Azera Limited at $26,081. So, once again...in comarison...you lose out on which car is a greater value. You're also reaching by trying to compare the Charger SE to the Azera Limited when it comes to options.
 
If you go back and look at the comparo I posted, I used the Charger SE, but...with the SXT package which made the two cars equally packaged. I'm sorry if YOU don't want to accept the truth in the matter that that Azera and the Charger are pretty equal in resale value at this point.
 
In conclusion, you have YET to prove your point other than trying every way possible to sell the idea that your Charger SXT is superior in value to an Azera SE or Limited. It's not that I can't accept your logic, it's just you haven't shown any with the route you're taking to make the comparison. First you want to compare a Charger R/T to an Azera Limited, then you turn around and try to compare your SXT to the Azera SE!!!
 
You can't compare the Charger SXT to the Azera SE. You can compare the Charger SE to the Azera SE, but...once again, you'll see the the Azera will show and prove to be a better value. I've already shown a perfect situation with both cars being pretty much equal in listed equipment, condition and with the exact same mileage. The numbers speak for themselves. Now tell me what point you've proven!
 
I'm sorry, unless you have a Charger R/T...the rest just suck! It's akin to buying a Ferrari with a 4 banger AND an automatic (okay, maybe a V-6)in it! In the end, your Charger can't even keep up with an Azera...how's that for insult to injury?
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [vic10] by keitha3
Nov 06, 2007 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: vic10 (Nov 06, 2007 6:00 pm)

My answer to your question is a huge, "No!!!!!"
 
I've test driven both and much prefer the Azera, especially if they get their suspension problems cleaned up.
 
Honestly, the Charger had a nervous feel to its handling which I didn't like. But, each of us obviously can make our own decisions, right?
 
By the way, I wouldn't consider myself "stuck" with an Azera should I purchase one. I'd be proud of my decision to spend my money wisely.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by cobrazera
Nov 07, 2007 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 06, 2007 6:27 pm)

I did a comp on the Dodge Charger R/T and found that equally equipped as an Azera Limited w/Ultimate the Charger lists for about $34.2K, and found that a 2006 model with 30K miles ( excellent condition ) has a trade-in value of $20.6K: cost to own was $13.6K.
The Azera lists for $29.8K and had a used value of $16.3K: cost to own was $13.5K.
Looks like they cost about the same to own for 2 years.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [cobrazera] by cobrazera
Nov 07, 2007 (3:48 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 3:02 am)

Continueing my previous post, #3547, both the Charger and Azera can probably be bought at a $2500 discount pretty easily, so the cost would be about $11K for each.
I then compared these to an Avalon XLS ( closest in equipment ) and found a new price of about $32.2K and a trade-in value of $21.2K, cost to own: $11K.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [cobrazera] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 3:02 am)

Once again, they two are NOT equally equipped as the R/T has a V-8 and the Azera has only a V-6. That is why I used the Charger SE w/SXT Package vs. Azera Limited w/Premium Package. The equipment list is pretty much dead even and there is only a couple thousand difference in the price. A much better comparison to use.
 
However, thank you for proving my point that the Charger and Azera are pretty much the same value. There are some that just refuse to believe that their precious American-made Charger can even be compared to the likes of a Korean-made product! LOL
 
Like I said before when I bought my '02 Sonata, the rest of the car makers need to keep an eye over their shoulder because Hyundai is creeping up on them.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [allmet33] by alexstore
Nov 07, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 5:50 am)

Toyota syndrome is now present in Hyundai. Recently visited HUyndai dealership in search for an SUV and had a chance to look at velacruz. Is this a top of the line Huyndai SUV? I have a better chance at buying used MUrano then this vehicle . Also looked once again at azera. Currently top of the line Azera without any options does not match even basic Avalon in its status.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [alexstore] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 07, 2007 7:04 am)

Alexstore...stop smoking that stuff. What in the world is Toyota Syndrome??? Did you actually test drive the V-E-R-A-C-R-U-Z? A Murano can't touch it! Besides, you're comparing a mid-size SUV (Murano) to a full-sized SUV (Veracruz). A better comparison would have been the Santa Fe vs. Murano.
 
Anyway...what exactly do you mean by "status"??? Are you aware that the Avalon isn't even the best vehicle that Toyota makes? The FJ Cruiser has taken that distinction as the Toyota vehicle with the least amount of problems.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [alexstore] by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Nov 07, 2007 7:04 am)

re: 3550 Your post is a little confusing.
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Re: 2006 Azera Limited vs. 2006 Charger SE [dborth] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2007 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 7:14 am)

Personally, I think HE'S confused himself!

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