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Replying to: xtec (Nov 06, 2007 1:07 pm) No my friend, YOU are doing apples to oranges. You don't use the MSRP as your starting point, you take two vehicles and equip them as equally as you can. Which is exactly what I did. A fully loaded Charger R/T will cost WAY more than a fully loaded Azera Limited (ultimate package). Like I said before, I don't know what the price of the Charger SE equipped as I showed went for in 2006, so I can't honestly say which has the better value. If I'm not mistaken, it would have run about $25K to get a Charger like that, in which case...the value between the two is pretty darn close. Maybe I should have said the Charger SE with the SXT package, I guess you didn't look at the options that were listed in the comparison. Being a Charger owner, I was assuming you would have known that. Go back to your apples and oranges pick with the Charger R/T vs. the Azera...that's a joke!!! The BASE 2007 model R/T starts out with an MSRP of just over $30K. Not to mention to get an R/T with some of the same features as the Azera...you're talking an MSRP of $35K (that's not even fully loaded). The fully loaded 2007 Azera Limited w/XM shows and MSRP of just over $27K. With all the options, the MSRP on the Azera is just over $31K How on earth do you try to compare the two??? The 2007 Charger SE with the SXT package (which equips the Charger very similarly to the Azera Limited w/Premium Package) as I stated in my initial post, comes to just under $26K. So why is it apples and oranges when comparing the two??? Whatever it is you're smoking over there...take it back and get a refund because it's a bad batch!!! I'm sorry if you're feelings are hurt to find out that there's no big difference in resale value between the Azera and the Charger (when equally equipped). LOL You tried hard though, I'll give you a C+ for your valiant effort. 
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 06, 2007 1:24 pm)
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Replying to: xtec (Nov 06, 2007 3:17 pm) Although the prices may be similar, the markets they appeal to are completely different. You might as well be comparing fishing poles to baseball bats (or whatever other weird comparison you wish to choose). Nice to be able to have that choice in the same price range, though, don't you think?
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Replying to: vic10 (Nov 06, 2007 6:00 pm) Worst logic. ever.
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Replying to: xtec (Nov 06, 2007 3:17 pm) You've proven MY point as well. The Charger SE started around $20K and when you get done adding all the options to make it comparable to the Azera Limited w/premium package...it is closer to the price of that rather than the Azera SE. You just choose to go with the SE instead to TRY and validate your point. Your SXT at $24,665 is much closer to my Azera Limited at $26,081. So, once again...in comarison...you lose out on which car is a greater value. You're also reaching by trying to compare the Charger SE to the Azera Limited when it comes to options. If you go back and look at the comparo I posted, I used the Charger SE, but...with the SXT package which made the two cars equally packaged. I'm sorry if YOU don't want to accept the truth in the matter that that Azera and the Charger are pretty equal in resale value at this point. In conclusion, you have YET to prove your point other than trying every way possible to sell the idea that your Charger SXT is superior in value to an Azera SE or Limited. It's not that I can't accept your logic, it's just you haven't shown any with the route you're taking to make the comparison. First you want to compare a Charger R/T to an Azera Limited, then you turn around and try to compare your SXT to the Azera SE!!! You can't compare the Charger SXT to the Azera SE. You can compare the Charger SE to the Azera SE, but...once again, you'll see the the Azera will show and prove to be a better value. I've already shown a perfect situation with both cars being pretty much equal in listed equipment, condition and with the exact same mileage. The numbers speak for themselves. Now tell me what point you've proven!  I'm sorry, unless you have a Charger R/T...the rest just suck! It's akin to buying a Ferrari with a 4 banger AND an automatic (okay, maybe a V-6)in it! In the end, your Charger can't even keep up with an Azera...how's that for insult to injury?
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Replying to: vic10 (Nov 06, 2007 6:00 pm) I've test driven both and much prefer the Azera, especially if they get their suspension problems cleaned up. Honestly, the Charger had a nervous feel to its handling which I didn't like. But, each of us obviously can make our own decisions, right? By the way, I wouldn't consider myself "stuck" with an Azera should I purchase one. I'd be proud of my decision to spend my money wisely. |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 06, 2007 6:27 pm) The Azera lists for $29.8K and had a used value of $16.3K: cost to own was $13.5K. Looks like they cost about the same to own for 2 years.
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 3:02 am) I then compared these to an Avalon XLS ( closest in equipment ) and found a new price of about $32.2K and a trade-in value of $21.2K, cost to own: $11K. |
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 07, 2007 3:02 am) However, thank you for proving my point that the Charger and Azera are pretty much the same value. There are some that just refuse to believe that their precious American-made Charger can even be compared to the likes of a Korean-made product! LOL Like I said before when I bought my '02 Sonata, the rest of the car makers need to keep an eye over their shoulder because Hyundai is creeping up on them.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2007 5:50 am)
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