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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [jaymagic] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 6:54 am)

even if not extremely knowledgeable when the model first appeared.
funny you should mention that - had the same problem with my Avalon in 05 - whether it be wiper blades, oil filters, oil capacities etc. the dealer had evidently had no 'training' on the car. Wonder why they do that, both the Avalon and the Azera are the flagships of their respective brands - you would think they would make some effort.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [imidazol97] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 29, 2007 7:04 am)

wrap your head arounde this - this is WRONG also - look up the specs.. Maybe Erin whatever her name is, needs to do a little more research instead of regurgitating what had been true the previous 10 years or so.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [captain2] by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2007 7:04 am)

Maybe they figure Azera and Avalon owners are so old, we will die before we need to buy another car.
 
Funny you mentioned that issue with Avalon service. I had really forgotten that I had similar initial problems with service writers on the 00 Avalon XLS when new (it was the first year of that generation's model). I ended up switching to a different dealer. LOL, so I know how some Azzy owners who had to struggle with a dealer must have felt. Although, with Azera's now almost three years old, I suspect that the only signficant dealer service problems are warranty disputes, where the dealer doesn't want to support the customer. I imagine the days of trying to figure out how to program lock/unlock issues, and getting immobilizer codes are past.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [jaymagic] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 7:17 am)

but your 00 XLS really was a 'gussied up' Camry - and therefore should not have caused the dealer any problems?
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Initial Price and Resale by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:24 am)
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If you don't care about the initial price and want a high resale value, I would suggest a Rolls. They have a very good resale to initial price ratio.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [captain2] by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2007 7:24 am)

I could only hope. Nope, it had the VSC, traction control, and more that the Camry didn't have (and by the way, it was a great car to have and own). The dealer had no clue on a light in the visor that malfunctioned from day one and an initial memory seat problem. Actually ended up at a Lexus dealer to get the memory seat issue resolved.
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Re: Initial Price and Resale [jaymagic] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 7:24 am)

always thought that BMW had this resale percentage category wired - just don't look at in terms of gross dollars 'lost' you might found out they are as expensive to drive as they are to buy!
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Re: Initial Price and Resale [captain2] by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2007 7:29 am)

LOL, I just figure if initial cost is no issue, why is he thinking Camry????
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Re: Initial Price and Resale [jaymagic] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 7:32 am)

or FTM the Sonata, if he wants to compare cost differences because there sure as heck is no a whole lot of size difference.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [djm2] by thegraduate
Oct 29, 2007 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: djm2 (Oct 29, 2007 4:44 am)

The purchase price of the vehicle is not my concern, but the resale value is very important to me. My vehicle is serviced every 2,500 miles
 
Its your money, but personally, my opinion is that you're wasting it by getting it serviced TOO often. That's about once every 4 weeks on a 25k mile/yr routine, right?
 
Why not go by what TOYOTA says to do? Their engineers probably have a decent idea of the service interval. At bare minimum I'd go in at 5,000 miles or 6 months; my guess is the owner's manual says somewhere between 7,500 miles and 10,000 miles.

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