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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [djm2] by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: djm2 (Oct 29, 2007 4:44 am)

I also have over 20K on my 07 Azera, and will have about 22 by the time it is one year old (21st -I think- of this month). I understand the concern about getting a car fixed, if you are doing a lot of traveling. Even if the car is rated, or known as highly reliable, stuff still happens to us all. And, since I am as, or more skeptical of a Chysler's reliability, than many are of Hyundai's, I can also understand the concern about a local Chrysler dealer who happens to sell Hyundai's. In my part of the country, I am not really aware of any Chrysler dealers who also carry Hyundai, except mega dealers who have a dealership for virtually every brand (including Hyundai). BUT, I also have found my "Hyundai only" dealer to be very responsive to my needs, even if not extremely knowledgeable when the model first appeared.
 
Having had an 02 350XG before the Azera, I was concerned about the service network as well, when I bought it. It had about 75+K on it when I finally traded it in on the Azzy (along with cash from an 00 Avalon XLS, which I sold). What I found, at least in the Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, and Wyoming areas, were a surprising number of dealers who handle Hyundai's in smaller cities. I know in Colorado, when I was looking for an Azera, I contacted dealers in Ft. Collins, Greeley, Pueblo, and Cheyenne Wyo., as well as several in the Denver area. So, while there are CLEARLY way more domestic and Toyota dealers around the country, I have not run into any problem finding a dealer for service, although the most I have ever needed was an oil change or filter when I was out of town. So, Hyundai service and support has never been a problem for me since I got my first one in 02.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [captain2] by imidazol97
Oct 29, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2007 5:32 am)

2005 Full-Size Sedan Comparison Test
First Place: 2005 Toyota Avalon
By Erin Riches, Senior Content Editor , Edmunds.com
Date posted: 03-28-2005
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Discreetly Fast
Redesigned from the ground up, the Avalon now rides on a stretched version of the current Camry platform.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [jaymagic] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 6:54 am)

even if not extremely knowledgeable when the model first appeared.
funny you should mention that - had the same problem with my Avalon in 05 - whether it be wiper blades, oil filters, oil capacities etc. the dealer had evidently had no 'training' on the car. Wonder why they do that, both the Avalon and the Azera are the flagships of their respective brands - you would think they would make some effort.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [imidazol97] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 29, 2007 7:04 am)

wrap your head arounde this - this is WRONG also - look up the specs.. Maybe Erin whatever her name is, needs to do a little more research instead of regurgitating what had been true the previous 10 years or so.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [captain2] by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2007 7:04 am)

Maybe they figure Azera and Avalon owners are so old, we will die before we need to buy another car.
 
Funny you mentioned that issue with Avalon service. I had really forgotten that I had similar initial problems with service writers on the 00 Avalon XLS when new (it was the first year of that generation's model). I ended up switching to a different dealer. LOL, so I know how some Azzy owners who had to struggle with a dealer must have felt. Although, with Azera's now almost three years old, I suspect that the only signficant dealer service problems are warranty disputes, where the dealer doesn't want to support the customer. I imagine the days of trying to figure out how to program lock/unlock issues, and getting immobilizer codes are past.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [jaymagic] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 7:17 am)

but your 00 XLS really was a 'gussied up' Camry - and therefore should not have caused the dealer any problems?
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Initial Price and Resale by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:24 am)
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If you don't care about the initial price and want a high resale value, I would suggest a Rolls. They have a very good resale to initial price ratio.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [captain2] by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2007 7:24 am)

I could only hope. Nope, it had the VSC, traction control, and more that the Camry didn't have (and by the way, it was a great car to have and own). The dealer had no clue on a light in the visor that malfunctioned from day one and an initial memory seat problem. Actually ended up at a Lexus dealer to get the memory seat issue resolved.
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Re: Initial Price and Resale [jaymagic] by captain2
Oct 29, 2007 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 7:24 am)

always thought that BMW had this resale percentage category wired - just don't look at in terms of gross dollars 'lost' you might found out they are as expensive to drive as they are to buy!
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Re: Initial Price and Resale [captain2] by jaymagic
Oct 29, 2007 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2007 7:29 am)

LOL, I just figure if initial cost is no issue, why is he thinking Camry????

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